mcgreal

[heywood]

hi again,
yes i think iv got john james and family in uk in 1881!! if jacobi is a james i have the another lead!! james mcgreal 1837 born?? maried mary?? 1839 he is listed as being a farm labourer and she a seamstress...

This family are living in Heaton Norris and some are still there in 1891 - including son John. This John is born 1858 which may be where your information comes from.

[stacey2411]

hi agian
haywood thats correct they had lots of kids!!
catherine 1890
mary ellen 1891 - 1891
elizabeth 1893
 john joseph 1896
winifred 1897 - 1898
thomas 1899
james 1900
mary catherine 1902
rose 1904
johanna 1906 - 1906
timothy 1909
bridget may 1910 - 1911
margaret 1912

but yes i do think you are right with the date of birth for my john joseph
as i say im only guessing at the heaton norris family not sure now its them as i have been talking to someone else and now i have doubts!!!

[stacey2411]

hi again
thought id just mention it was going through the incoming passengers lists that iv got john josephs date of birth so nothing solid but john joseph worked on the cattle ships job title cattle man on ships/ droover
but in some records he was registered as alien which is a vet!!

[stacey2411]

hi again
thought id just mention it was going through the incoming passengers lists that iv got john josephs date of birth so nothing solid but john joseph worked on the cattle ships job title cattle man on ships/ droover
but in some records he was registered as alien which is a vet!!
iv just searched with the 1867 date and yeah its him 1891 census in everton!!!

[heywood]

Hi again,
Did the family emigrate? You mention passenger lists/alien 
Have you got them in 1901/1911?

If John was born after 1864, there should hopefully be a birth registration for him.

Heywood

[Owenwee]

Hi  Stacey

Did you purchase the birth cert of Timothy Mcgreal to confirm his parents names.I see a family in 1911 census indexes Liverpool. There is also a Timothy and a Rose who are in an institution. The children of the family of John Mcgreal and Mary Coughlan are  listed on the online births but these records only go up to 1906,so Timothy would not be shown.

The Irish Mayo Ancestors site shows a John Mcgreal born 1857 to a James Mcgreal and a Bridget O'Brien.It would not be worth purchasing the record as it only shows the date,denomination and Parish no Townland Address.There is a James Mcgreal in the Griffths Valuation living in Farburren Westport,but this list only shows people renting or owning land so if your ancestor was not a farmer there will be no record.Mostly ignore dates on census records they are often out by 5 -10yrs espically Irish .

[stacey2411]

No i didnt get timothys birth certificate yet but i do posses some information from the army and the international red cross stating parents names so yes parents are confirmed!! the births and deaths of the children after 1906 are on the free bdm site and can be found.

and yeah im having real problems finding my john in mayo as back then it seems records were parish records and placing him within a parish is where im stuck at the moment!!!

[Owenwee]

Hi  Stacey,

There are several families with the Mcgreal name in Westport and surrounding Townlands of Owenwee and Bolybrein which is about 5 miles from Westport Town. My own family is Mcgreal from Owenwee,including my ancestors born 1850c but with father called Patrick.The parish is Oughaval sometimes called Augavale. The church is St. Marys Westport,you could try writing to them and see if they have a birth of John with a father James around the 1857-1867 period.

[stacey2411]

thanks for that owenwee
but im still not sure that johns father is james!!! i am awaiting the marriage cert for john and mary so hopefully will know more when i recieve that as to whom the parents are!!! so when i get that i will find the parish into which he was born all very frustrating until i get the facts
regards
stacey