I should know ... never had this situation before

[joboy]

James Killick bachelor of Southwark married Elizabeth Rose (a widow of Coulsdon Surrey) at Southwark Nov 20 1793.
Would Rose have been her maiden name or was it from her former marriage.?
joboy

[rosie99]

Normally from her previous marriage 

Her signature looks like Roff 

Rosie

[Ruskie]

maybe the old 'long 's' that looks like an "f"?

[rosie99]

I thought that but they are normally a fs not ff.  But that would make it Ross not Rose, just to bear in mind when looking for a previous marriage. 

Rosie

[joboy]

maybe the old 'long 's' that looks like an "f"?

I fear you might be right Ruskie

[joboy]

Normally from her previous marriage 

Her signature looks like Roff 

Rosie

Yeah Rosie ... the Pallots entry says;
''Rose Elizbth (sd Roff) of Coulsdon'' and I suppose it could also be Ross .... oh dear!!

[damikinch]

Hi Joboy.

The following are taken from transcripts of St.John the Evangelist at Coulsdon and MAY help.


Baptism.Dec.2,1764.Elizabeth,d.Thomas and Margaret MITCHELL.

Marriage.Jan.12,1785.William ROFFE and Elizabeth MITCHEL(sic) by Banns.Each made their mark.


Baptisms of the children of a William & Elizabeth ROFFE.

June 12,1785 William.
Oct 6,1786 John.
May 16,1788 Rebecca.
Nov 8,1789 Hugh.
July 24 1791 Elizabeth.
Nov 13,1792 Patience.

Burials.April 12,1793 William ROFFE.
June 9,1793 Patience ROFFE.
March 26,1800 Elizabeth ROFFEY(sic).


Baptisms of the children of a James and Elizabeth KILLICK/KILLECK.
Dec.3,1794 James.
May 19,1796 Mary.


Marriage.Oct.9,1798 William QUARTERMAIN of Godstone,bachelor and Elizabeth KILLICK,widow.By Licence.

Baptism of the children of a William and Elizabeth QUARTERMAIN.
Jul 24,1799 Patience.
Jan 16,1801 Robert.
June 13,1802.

ALL the above refer to the Coulsdon Registers and are only up to 1812.

HTH,
Regards Dave.

[joboy]

I'll go with that Dave and thank you very much.
William Roffe married Elizabeth Mitchell 1785 and appears to have had his last child Patience 1792 so it is probable that the William who died 1793 was the husband of Elizabeth and not the child William born 1785.
Mary Killick child of James and Elizabeth Rose (Rofe or whatever) were married at St Saviours Southwark fits well there and their daughter Mary married my 4th ggf Joshua Twitchin at St Mary's Lambeth Oct 7 1816.
Great Stuff,
Joe