Sorry to duplicate some of this post but can't see where to edit last post to add further info from families memories.
Received John & Mary's marriage certificate (am I sad to get excited over a certificate )
Reads
30th sept 1911 at the Parish church, Parish of Earlstown Lancaster
John Bill Downes 22 bachelor labourer 40 cherry st, Father George Weaver Puddler
Mary Ann Collins 21 spinster 302 crow lane west, Father John Collins Collier
Witnesses Joseph Humphries & Frances's Humphries
So following on from this it does all connect with sister frances on 1911 census in Lancashire
John born Dudley
Mary Ann born Warrington not Ireland, her father John was born Ireland,
Family also believe from info passed down through generations that Johns father is Michael Collins, but I'm not sure
Would be grateful for any further help to prove the above.
Thanx