Need some help.... UPDATED

[meggiemoo3]

We have all of Emily's details, know her parents and the names of her brothers and sisters so that is not a problem. Not sure if we know of cousins etc though.

Parents - Herbert T Sandles (1881) and Sarah Amelia Kingsland

Siblings - Louisa A Sandles (1905-2001)  Minnie A Sandles (1907-1991)   George HT Sandles (1911-1970) Alice A Sandles (1916) and Herbert M Sandles (1919-1993)

We also have details of Herbert's and Sarah's parents and siblings - which I suppose any of these could be the relative that Douglas was sent off too.

Will try and sort out the details of any cousins and get back to you.

Thank you

[carol8353]

Don't name any of the cousins here, will you, as they may well be still alive.
I was just suggesting you could contact some of them and ask if they knew what happened to him.

I wonder if the authorities would have insisted that a child of 14 have her baby adopted? Adoptions were legalised in 1927,before that it could often be an arrangement between friends or family members.

Carol

[meggiemoo3]

No I won't but thanks for the reminder.

As far as we know according to my mother-in-law the brother was sent off to live with family members - now I don't know whether this was Emily being sent off to have the baby or it was the baby being sent off.

I need to check the family tree to see whether any of the aunts/uncles of Emily had children that could possibly have been 'Douglas' with another name.

I know that my mother-in-law's older twin sisters were born around 1935 so they may not even have known a great deal about this brother either. One of them wrote a book about their family history during the War and to the present day but there is no mention of a 'brother' or any photgraphs of any either.

[meggiemoo3]

Thanks

[softly softly]

meggiemoo3,
Not sure if you have access to Anc* but if the son retained his birth surname there appear in the telephone index a couple with this name until at least 1984. Their addressess may be a clue as there are others with that surname in area.
Any problems send me a pm
John

[meggiemoo3]

meggiemoo3,
Not sure if you have access to Anc* but if the son retained his birth surname there appear in the telephone index a couple with this name until at least 1984. Their addressess may be a clue as there are others with that surname in area.
Any problems send me a pm
John

Yes we do - thanks for that info - will start looking - there were certainly quite a few Sandles in the family so who knows.

It would seem that apparently he went to grandparents - although we don't know whether that was Herbert and Sarahor whether it was the paternal grandparents - may know more at the weekend.

[sandiep]

if he was legally adopted getting his birth certificate should say on it.........it wont give you by whom but at least then you would know which trail to follow.

[meggiemoo3]

Well I can now update this with a little more information that may help with finding Douglas.

I spoke to my mother-in-law yesterday and quizzed her about what she remembered and what her older sister had told her.

Firstly apparently his father was believed to be a boy of a family that lived she thought in the same block of houses/in the same house as Emily and her family when they lived in London. Apparently Emily became extremly friendly with one of the boys of this family. I guess we are going to have to wait until the 1921 Census to find out any details about this as Emily and her family still lived in Sussex in 1911. She believes as I said before that Douglas went to family to be brought up - she thinks that this was Emily's family but is not 100% sure. She's not sure whether he kept the same name but does not believe that he was adopted out so he probably did.

My mother-in-law has recollections when she was a child of a young man coming to visit quite regularly and she believes that this may have been Dougie (the name she uses). She said that he was in the Army - probably doing his National Service as he would not have been old enough to have enlisted during WW2. She also recalls him spending time at their house ill, after contracting malaria whilst overseas.