Peach

[D_Anthony_H]

There is a tree of Thomas Peach & Elizabeth Heape and their descendants at
http://www.h1932.com/Peach/
note that this URL is case sensitive

I am looking for the marriage of John Peach and Elisabeth Handley anywhere in England between 1782 and 1787 (alternative spellings Elizabeth, and also Handly).

I am also looking for the baptism of any and all who were baptised Elizabeth Peach in Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire and Staffordshire in 1785, 1786, 1787 and 1788 (alternative spelling Elisabeth).

Elisabeth Peach is my ancestor.  The first appearance of Elisabeth_P that I can find is her 1810 marriage to Anton˙_H in Ashby de la Zouch.  A witness at her wedding was Martha Handly Peach.  I have spent many days at the Leicestershire Records Office searching Parish after Parish for her Christening - but I have yet to find her, and I am starting to think that she was possibly born in a neighbouring County.  I have joined RootsChat in the hopes that someone has found something which might indicate which Parish of which County is where Elisabeth was born, or where in England the parents of Martha were married.

[[Ray]]

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[D_Anthony_H]

I apologise for misleading you, Ray.  I have corrected my sloppy wording by replacing
Anton˙
with
Anton˙_H
to make it clear that Anton˙ is not (in this case) a surname.
D.

[Pels.]

I am also looking for the baptism of any and all who were baptised Elizabeth Peach in Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire and Staffordshire in 1785, 1786, 1787 and 1788 (alternative spelling Elisabeth).

Hi D,

Have you considered any of these for the baptisms you are looking for :

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0r7v/

Welcome to RootsChat ! 

Kind regards,

Pels.

[Pels.]

Before you look at the link I posted above, have you seen this :

Christening: 6th December 1789
Elisabeth Peach
Parents : William and Elisabeth  Peach
Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire

The 1841 census claims Elizabeth was 50, therefore born circa 1791. As I'm sure you are aware this census has the age for anyone over the age of fifteen rounded down to the nearest five years.

I think the above baptism looks a good match for the lady in 1841.

Pels.   

[Pels.]

Death, Jun 1847 
Elizabeth Hoffman   
Ashby de la Z, Vol 15, page 1

The death certificate should give an idea of Elisabeth's age helping you determine whether she was born in 1789, rather than the years you mention.

Pels.

[Pels.]

I am looking for the marriage of John Peach and Elisabeth Handley anywhere in England between 1782 and 1787 (alternative spellings Elizabeth, and also Handly).

A witness at her wedding was Martha Handly Peach.  I have spent many days at the Leicestershire Records Office searching Parish after Parish for her Christening - but I have yet to find her, and I am starting to think that she was possibly born in a neighbouring County.  I have joined RootsChat in the hopes that someone has found something which might indicate which Parish of which County is where Elisabeth was born, or where in England the parents of Martha were married.

Just to make it easier :

Christening: 23rd May 1791
Martha Handley Peach
Parents : John and Elisabeth Peach
Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire

Could the middle name of Handley belong to a grandparent - therefore not necessarily the maiden name for Elisabeth, Martha's mother ?

Pels.

[D_Anthony_H]

Thank you so much Pels for your excellent suggestions.  I had reached a block in my thinking, and you have shown me a new door to open.  I don't want to say too much in this first message, but it is important that I underline my sincere thanks to you.

As it happens, my Elizabeth Peach was married before the 1841 Census.  She died before the 1851 Census.  The only facts that I have is a "Y" in the 1841 Census for Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, plus also the age on her Death Certificate which is the same as the age in the Parish Records, and finally the name of a witness at Elizabeth's wedding - Martha Handley Peach (who was Christened in Ashby de la Zouch).

I rule out the 1789 Elizabeth because my Elizabeth was born in 1786 or (slightly less likely) in 1787.  My guess is that County boundaries were not a serious concern of the average person.  So after 30 years of searching Leicestershire, including many days of reading page after page of Parish Records in the Leicestershire Records Office, I have turned to think about the neighbouring Counties.  But of course this involves several hundreds of Parishes.

I will post a second message tomorrow which gives more information.

[g eli]

Don't forget that although most baptisms occurred within a short period after the birth of a child,there were sometimes months and years between the birth and the baptism  so the Elizabeth baptized Ashby de la Zouch could be yours.
Liz