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Were people in asylums allowed visitors?
« on: Saturday 15 September 12 12:16 BST (UK) »
I am doing some research and it would be great if anyone could answer these questions:

Were long-term members of an asylum, that had been declared insane after WW1, allowed visitors during the 1950s? By insane, I mean suffering from shell shock.

If theses sufferers were previously thought to have been high-risk (a danger to others) but had shown almost complete recovery over the course of many years, would they have been allowed back into public life, or would they serve the rest of their life inside?

I have looked around but can't find any answers!

Many thanks

Claire
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Re: Were people in asylums allowed visitors?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 September 12 23:48 BST (UK) »
I was recently going through some mental asylum records and noticed that there was a register of visitors in several volumes dating from late Victorian times to the mid 1930's.  It was not a visitor's book but a register so it may have been a legal requriement to keep such records.
Forster Cul, Harrison Cul, Wood Cul Yks, Castley Cul & Wes, Lorimer Cul and Perth,Innis Cul, Casson, Cul, Johnston,Cul & Nfk, Carruthers Cul, Ewart Cul, Jardine Cul & Dmf, Story Cul, ONeill Cul & NI, Davis Cul & Ldn,

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Re: Were people in asylums allowed visitors?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 September 12 19:01 BST (UK) »
They were certainly allowed visitors, though it needs a stretch of the imagination to see that things were very different then. Visiting was very restricted, perhaps just one afternoon a week, sometimes a month, usually on a Saturday or Sunday. Most asylums were well away from towns, and patients often placed somewhere inconvenient to friends or family; cars were the property of the rich, so visitors depended on public transport, journeys were long, and it meant giving up the only day they might have off work during the week.  Many families regarded placement in an institution as shameful and were not keen to visit at the best of times.  There were few social workers, no support for families or 'care in the community,' and there were thousands of men and women who lived out their lives in asylums when today they would have been living in the community.  Then, there was no 'care in the community,' no half-way houses or local residential accommodation, few social workers and no support for families.  By the time men were fit for discharge, there was usually nowhere for them to go, and no-one willing to take responsibility for their discharge.  In addition, many patients felt fairly safe and secure in an environment that had been their home for years/decades - who would have helped them re-adjust to the outside world?  I doubt if many of these men would have been a danger to others though - it was they themselves who were at risk - the outside world didn't know how to cope with them.

My own brother entered an institution of this type in 1944, though not through war trauma.  The hospital was in a rural location, more than two hours drive away from our home, and as my parents didn't have a car visits were usually just two or three times a year.  Lack of visits were not always through choice - my mother said many years later that she was desperate to see him, but just couldn't cope with the trauma of visits and goodbyes, and my father was ashamed of him. He was there for almost forty years until changes in 'care in the community' in the 1980s meant that he was moved to a small, residential home in the middle of a large town where he still lives and has a fuller life than most elderly men.  We take these things for granted now, but need to be thankful for a more caring, enlightened society.

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Re: Were people in asylums allowed visitors?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 September 12 20:32 BST (UK) »



You might have already seen this site, Claire :

http://www.highroydshospital.com/

If not, very thought provoking and makes for some detailed reading.
My uncle was allowed visitors and later discharged at the insistence of his mother.

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Re: Were people in asylums allowed visitors?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 September 12 12:04 BST (UK) »
Scarletwoman has described the matter so well. My Aunt who lived in London through WW2, break down after blitz, and was later placed in Tooting Bec Mental Home. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/MAB-TootingBec/ It was difficult for family from Ireland to visit  but,  they allowed her transfer to Grangegorman Mental hospital in Dublin, Ireland in the early fifties. Through the 50's family were allowed visit there at Weekends. A tough assignment as doors were unlocked, visitors allowed in and door after door locked en route to meeting room.

A lot of injured ex servicemen WW1(I'd say mental as well as physical) were housed at the Blackrock Military Orthopoedic Hospital in a suburb of Dublin. Again we visited a great granduncle there in the early 50's.
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