I just need a clue!!!!

[BinturongBethy]

OK so I've been trying to find my grandad on the 1911 census. His details are as follows :

Glyndwr Morris
     Birth 30 Jan 1909 in Port Talbot, Neath Port Talbot, Wales
    Death 03 Feb 1994 in Surrey Northern, Surrey, England

His mother was Frances Elizabeth Agland born in 1889

His father on his birth cert is listed as John Davies, He is Glyndwr Davies on his birth cert
But on his marriage cert to my nan, his father is John Benjamin Morris.

I have no other info on either Mr Morris or Mr Davies.

My grandad never knew about this Mr Davies bloke until he ordered a copy of his birth cert as an adult. Apparently my great grandmother just decided to change his name to Morris one day and it stuck.

I cant find any info about my grandad, not even his birth. I have found his mother, and have found info on him as an adult ie marriage, death.

Its bugging me to the point of annoyance!!

Please is there anybody who can help???

[JJen]

Hi,

Have you tried using his mother's surname of Agland to find your grandad?

JJ

[BinturongBethy]

Yep. Ive tried all name combinations, and no surname too

[JJen]

By doing a free search there is a Glynwr Agland b.1909 and in the same household is Frances E Agland b 1889 and a Willie Agland 2 months. Living in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire. Hopefully that will help you to locate them on the site you have access to.

JJ

[silvery]

Seems he must have know his birth name was Davies to order his birth certificate?   

There is a record in the freebmd indexes

March 1909, Glyndwr Davies, vol 11a page 1040

There is no record of a Glyndwr Agland, and there is no Neath record of a Glyndwr Morris. 

[BinturongBethy]

Thank you, although just to confuse matters even more, as far as I can gather, he had an uncle who was a simillar age to him give or take a year called Glyndwr Agland.

I have no idea of the details about how he found out his "real" name, only that he didnt find out until he was an adult and needed to get his birth certificate for something. Maybe his mum fessed up?

My mum (Glyndwr is my dads dad) has told me that he managed to track down some of his family in wales and that he had half siblings but we dont know their names or anything about them. He left no clues and there is a story that after he found out that his "dad" wasnt his real dad his younger half brother insisted that he give him the pocket watch that his father had left to his eldest son, as his younger brother then discovered that he was infact John Morris's eldest son. Very sad, my grandad apparently gave him the watch and never spoke to him again.

[BinturongBethy]

YES!!!! Thank you All the names are spelt wrong but thats them!! (I think) Thank you thank you thank you!!

[Mabel Bagshawe]

This chap on 1911 might also be of interest

MORRIS   JOHN BENGIEMAN   M   1873   38   Bedwellty   Monmouthshire

[Mabel Bagshawe]

it might be a complete coincidence but there's a John Davies lodging with the Aglands in 1901 - he's around the same age as Frances' parents