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Re: Death sentence of Mary Axhorn 1815
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 October 12 22:50 BST (UK) »
Just a tip for trees: Ancestry has a mirror site where it puts all the public family trees from the Ancestry site (although almost no tree owners have any idea of this):

http://www.mundia.com/

Free to sign up and search and send private messages (people receive them through their Ancestry account as well). You'll find Mary Azhorn 1786 in trees there as well. No Margaret though. In this case as in many others, it seems fairly apparent that multiple people have just copied the same information back and forth and it's hardly reliable, but you never know what they might have to offer.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Death sentence of Mary Axhorn 1815
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 October 12 22:59 BST (UK) »
Well, they say you learn something new every day!  I had no idea about that site at all. Thank you for this information  ~  I shall certainly take a look.
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Re: Death sentence of Mary Axhorn 1815
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 04 October 12 19:22 BST (UK) »
My great grandfather's brother was sentenced to death in 1832 for highway robbery, but, in that era it was common for most death sentences to be commuted to transportation for life, so the death record in Sydney NSW is quite likely the lady concerned.
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Re: Death sentence of Mary Axhorn 1815
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 04 October 12 19:46 BST (UK) »
That's what I thought about the transportation rather than execution -- but I don't see any death record in NSW, is the problem. (or marriage)

(I tried spelling it Axehorn, and Axown as some of the trees show for previous generations, but still no results.)

http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births (and deaths)
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=marriages

Hang on ... one of those trees says she married Henry Catley.  I still don't see a marriage or death. A Louisa Catley with parents Henry and Mary Helen died 1961 Balmain, which seems a little late for the child of someone born c1811.

There are Catley births to a George and Mary A in Sydney:

Edith 1860
Alice M 1862
Agnes T 1866 (died 1866)

Again, seems a little late.

A Mary A Catley died in Randwick in 1919, and other Catleys with parents George and Mary A/Ann died in 1907 and 1944.

No Henry Catley.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?


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Re: Death sentence of Mary Axhorn 1815
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 04 October 12 21:34 BST (UK) »
We are forgetting something; there are copious transportation records provided by the Australian authorities. In Australia it is considered almost elite to have ancestors who were transported there.
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Re: Death sentence of Mary Axhorn 1815
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 04 October 12 22:30 BST (UK) »
I agree -- and lots of them are at Ancestry, I think -- I just don't have paid access to them. ;)

Maybe Ancestry just has the unassisted passenger lists? It shows a Benj, a T and an F, but I can't see the details.
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Death sentence of Mary Axhorn 1815
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 04 October 12 22:41 BST (UK) »
The name Mrs Mary Catley appears in Sands Directories: Sydney and New South Wales, Australia, 1858-1933 which can be seen at Ancestry. Maybe somebody with Australian records access will check that?

(If you ask on the Australia board, put a link to this thread so people there can see what info has been checked already.)
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?