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Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« on: Wednesday 12 September 12 11:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Rootschatters,   In the '51 census I have found a trio of children in the Union Workhouse, Doncaster, surname Tyas,  Elizabeth 11,  Richard 9 and John 6, all born Conisbrough.   I then found a child Elizabeth in the '41 census who matched, with her parents Jonathan and Ann in Bawtry, Doncaster.  The problem is, this family, I'm assuming they're all one family, don't appear in any census after those 2!   Where did they go?   Emigrated or what?

A puzzle, my wife's family name is Tyas with some connection to Conisbrough so hence the interest   I also have 12 or 13 other Tyas family trees on the go but they don't appear so far in any of them.

Ray.
Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
Barker - Middlesbrough

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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 September 12 12:01 BST (UK) »


Have you considered these for the above children Ray :

Death, Dec qtr 1852   
Richard Tyas    
Doncaster, Vol 9c, page 251

Death, Dec qtr 1860   
John Tyas        
Doncaster, Vol 9c, page 296

There were four deaths registered under the name Elizabeth Tyas between 1851 and 1861.

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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 September 12 12:07 BST (UK) »



The only possible deaths I can find to fit the couple in 1841 :

Death, Dec qtr 1843   
Ann Fisher Tyas        
Doncaster, Vol  22, page 55

Death, June qtr 1844   
Jonathan Tyas   
Doncaster, Vol 22, page 62

I don't know how those would explain a six year old John on the 1851 census though ?

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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 September 12 12:14 BST (UK) »




Death, Dec qtr 1843   
Ann Fisher Tyas        
Doncaster, Vol  22, page 55

Death, June qtr 1844   
Jonathan Tyas   
Doncaster, Vol 22, page 62


Food for thought :

Christening: 8th March 1816
Ann Fisher Routh   
parents:   William Routh,​ Ann Fisher
Snaith, Yorkshire

Marriage 7th November 1836   
Ann Routh   
Jonathan Tyas
Snaith, Yorkshire

A birth for baby Richard who was with them in 1841 :

Birth, Mar qtr 1841   
Richard Routh Tyas    
Doncaster, Vol 22, page 74

The census in 1841 was taken on the 6th June, while the 1851 census was taken earlier on March 30th. This might explain why Richard was written as being 3 months old in 1841 and only 9 years of age in 1851.

See what you think anyway, nothing lost if I'm wrong !  :) :)

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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 September 12 16:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you pels, I'll mull these over and see what I think.   Ann Fisher Tyas I have in a file of 'unknowns' so you've added a new fact to her story, thanks.   I've switched my brain to another family temporarily but I'll jump back to this when I've sorted the other out.  I never thought to look at deaths!   ???   I have 15 Tyas trees on the go so it takes some keeping up with.

Thanks again for the trouble,

Ray
Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
Barker - Middlesbrough

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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 00:40 BST (UK) »
None of them were baptised at Conisbrough. 
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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 00:59 BST (UK) »
Ann Fisher Tyas was buried at Conisbrough 21st Dec 1843 aged 27years
There is an Elizabeth Tyas aged 19 buried on 9th Aug 1860 at Conisbrough
That is the lot I can find matching what you stated. 
WYATT, COX, STRATTON, all from south Derbyshire and the STS, LEI border Burns Fellows Gough Wilks from STS in particular Black Country and now heading into SOP

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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 11:10 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that input, I'll add it to the relative files I have, the more you know the less there is to know.

Thanks again,

Ray
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Hoggart - Bilsdale, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Doncaster.
Tyas - South Kirkby, Hooton Pagnell, Conisbrough.
Spencer - Chesterfield, Doncaster.
Bell - Carlisle - Sunderland.
Lowe - Chesterfield
Chaney - Middlesbrough
Barker - Middlesbrough

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Re: Family Tyas in Doncaster Workhouse!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 September 12 11:14 BST (UK) »
Ray,

I have transcribed all of Conisborough Parish registers and a large part of Christ Church registers.  The latter was for a long time the church of choice for the union workhouse in Doncaster.  If you would like me to extract from both all mentions of Tyas I am happy to do that however it will take some time to do

Rob
WYATT, COX, STRATTON, all from south Derbyshire and the STS, LEI border Burns Fellows Gough Wilks from STS in particular Black Country and now heading into SOP