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Searching for Mabel Dudman
« on: Tuesday 11 September 12 15:19 BST (UK) »
Can you help?  This is my brick wall, I can't seem to find any details, data on Mabel Dudman, here is some information:

Born @ 1882
In 1908 she was working at the Camberwell House Asylum as a laundry maid.

She had a son Victor who was born with the surname Barclay in 02/07/1903

On Victors birth cert Mabels last name is Barclay however I have not found a marriage cert and seem to think this was a fib.... all other documents she is a Dudman.

A daughter Gladys Dudman born 30/ 04/1906
A son George Dudman born and died 1905

Apparently Mabel had a brother Walter and sisters Milly (maybe Millicent) Lily (maybe Lilian) and Susie.
Apparently Lilian married a Massey.  Susie married a Sams.   

I am searching for any information on Mabel and her daughter Gladys, I have found information on Victor.

I can not find anything on the early census for this family unit. 

Would absolutely love some direction or advice. 

Thank you and kind regards.

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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 15:49 BST (UK) »
In the 1911, Gladys is in a foster home with 10 others in a home run by Camberwell Board of Guardians

These 'scattered homes' have records held at the LMA. If you visit, some of the books are available for inspection and you may get further information on when they were admitted and if collected (sometimes this happened often dependent on the financial or family circumstances of the parents)

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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 15:59 BST (UK) »

 RG14; Piece: 2463

How did young Victor end up in Suffolk?
Class: RG14; Piece: 10671; Schedule Number: 30; .

Mabel is in Newington, with daughter aged one
Class: RG14; Piece: 1832; ; .

Births Mar 1910  DUDMAN  Ethel     Southwark  1d 22

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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:07 BST (UK) »
she was a bit of a fibber
she indicates she is a widow with no other children..
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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:35 BST (UK) »
Quote from: SaiKung on Tuesday 11 September 12 15:19 BST (UK)

Apparently Mabel had a brother Walter and sisters Milly (maybe Millicent) Lily (maybe Lilian) and Susie.
Apparently Lilian married a Massey.  Susie married a Sams.   


Presumably this is the marriage you refer to for Susie:

Marriage, Mar qtr 1916

Susannah DUDMAN
William SAMS

Southwark 1d 21.

Has Susannah been found prior to her marriage?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:37 BST (UK) »
Given her Egham birthplace, this looks likely to be Mabel's birth registration:

Birth, Dec qtr 1884

Amy Mabel DUDMAN

Windsor 2c 469
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:39 BST (UK) »
16th October 1909
Lorrimore Square St Paul,    Southwark

Lilian Mary Elizabeth Dudman spinster age 24   Father Joseph Arthur Dudman occ Coachman
Edward Albert Massey  bachelor age 40 occ Hatter Father Richard Massey (decd) occ Hatter
both resident 32 Marsland Rd.
wit Edward Carter and Mary Martha Dudman


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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:40 BST (UK) »
Do you have Mabels birth record? the census says b Egham, but I couldn't find it

what record do you have to show her occupation in 1908?
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Re: Searching for Mabel Dudman
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:48 BST (UK) »
Marriage, Jun qtr 1880

Joseph Arthur DUDMAN
Mary Martha BARNARD

Windsor 2c 699
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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