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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #18 on: Friday 14 September 12 14:16 BST (UK) »
I think we are chasing the right Bertha but she was lawfully married to Aaron Bridge and never married a John Steward (although a John Steward was married to her cousin Ellen at his death) although she was apparently buried with John. Why her death was registered in the name Steward, and on what basis letters of administration in relation to her estate were granted to John Steward's son Percy, are currently unexplained.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #19 on: Friday 14 September 12 14:27 BST (UK) »
The 1911 census has Aaron Bridge with his wife Bertha Almasphere Bridge?!

It's the only Bertha I can find, who was born in Helions Bumpstead.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #20 on: Friday 14 September 12 16:31 BST (UK) »
Hi

For what it is worth . . . . .

Death
Bertha A A BRIDGE 79 years   
Mar 1952 Edmonton 5e 344



Bertha Albina Alma Thea Hughes?


Birth
Bertha Albina A Hughes
Jun 1872 Risbridge 4a 437

Risbridge covers Helion Bumpstead


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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #21 on: Friday 14 September 12 16:36 BST (UK) »
Aargh.

I see that Maureen had also picked up on the 1952 death.

So: is the 1937 death of "Bertha Albina Alma Steward" in fact that of Ellen Steward? With some funny business going on?

Can Ellen be traced alive after 1937? (Or a separate death found)?

Who was the informant on the 1937 death?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #22 on: Friday 14 September 12 16:45 BST (UK) »

Alternatives?

Deaths Sep 1937   (>99%)
Steward    Bertha A A    65    Edmonton    3a   703

Marriage?
HILLYER    Bertha Blanche
STEWARD    John        
1937 Mar Mile End 1c 658

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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #23 on: Friday 14 September 12 17:02 BST (UK) »

Deaths Sep 1937 
Steward    Bertha A A    65    Edmonton    3a   703


For those who have not seen them, here are the probate register details corresponding to this death registration:

STEWARD Bertha Albina Alma of 200 Silver-street Edmonton Middlesex* widow died 28 August 1937 at North Middlesex County Hospital Edmonton.

Administration London 4 December 1937 to Percy George Steward grocer's manager.

Effects £92 15s 1d.

*This address was the address of John and Ellen Steward from (at the latest) 1901. They are still there together in electoral rolls up to 1931.  John is thought to have died in 1932. Ellen Steward still appears there in the electoral roll of 1936.  They had a son called Percy George Steward (among other offspring); when Percy married in Edmonton in 1915 he was a grocer's assistant, of 200 Silver Street, son of John Steward, carman.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #24 on: Monday 17 September 12 15:36 BST (UK) »
??? So who was the Bertha A A BRIDGE who died in Edmonton March Qtr 1952?

Maureen
dont think this is the right bertha as she died aug 1937 aged 67

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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #25 on: Monday 17 September 12 18:03 BST (UK) »
There's no documented evidence in marriages that the 1937 death is the woman born as Bertha albina Hughes.
I'm really at a loss to see why you are convinced that she is.
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Re: bertha albina hughes
« Reply #26 on: Monday 24 September 12 14:28 BST (UK) »
There's no documented evidence in marriages that the 1937 death is the woman born as Bertha albina Hughes.
I'm really at a loss to see why you are convinced that she is.

i have looked at the church register in  church street cemertary and is says we was burried with her husband john steward who died 1932 i know he was married to berthas s cousin ellenas they grew up together in hellion bumpstead  .perhaps they were living together as i have found ellen on electral roll up yo 1937.