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GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« on: Sunday 09 September 12 18:48 BST (UK) »
Hello,

i wondered if someone could look for the following:

in the 1871 Census:

George Price (dob approx 1857) in the Chesham, Buckingham district. i thought i found something in a house schedule no.67 but can access anything else and i am too much of a beginner to subscribe to anything i won't get enough use of. Also think Amersham is the registration district.
He should have a sister Mary Ann Price and possibly other siblings.

He could be my great, great Uncle.

Anyone help would be greatly appreciated. I only started this last week and it shocking how much information although it should be free to see is held by partners who charge to see everything.  >:( Plus i am still trying to get my head around where to look,  how to follow things its all a bit overwhelming  ??? at this point lol but i did find my great uncle jack who died in Greece in WWI and found his date of death, cemetery and my gran was so happy as her father never knew any of that after he was told he'd died in action. so its worth it.  ;D

Thanks


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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 September 12 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hello and welcome to RootsChat -which is free!!!
You will find there is a lot of information to be found freely - a lot transcribed by volunteers - an enormous amount of information frre by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (commonly known as "Mormons") - the pay sites are for a reason - they have usually had to pay to transcribe images etc -and so it is a business -withoout paying subscriptions these companies would not be able to keep going .
Ancestry is a subscription site but you can have free access  at a library.

Now for your request - are you certain Mary Ann is George's sister - if I am looking at the correct family Mary Ann is his wife????

there is this family
1871
16A Phenix Yard Phenix Stables Westminster  London
George Price head M 38 labourer Newcastle Northumberland
Amelia wife 40 Chesham Bucks
GEORGE son 14 Chesham Bucks
James son 8 Westinster
Charles son 5 Westminster
Elizabeth daughter 3 Westminster
Alfred son 1 Westminster
RG10 109 100 40

if you look at 1881 (free to view at familysearch)census George is head of household with wife mary age 21, brother James 18, brother Charles 15, sister Elizabeth 13, brother Alfred 11, sister Rebecca age 8

????

Suz
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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 September 12 19:41 BST (UK) »
Hi tanithrea,

Welcome to Rootschat.   :)

1871 census:

John Price (53)  head,  Elizabeth (52) wife and children Mary Ann (17), George (14) and Emily (10); living at Church Street, Chesham.  John is a bricklayer.


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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 September 12 19:49 BST (UK) »
Hi again - I was just about to post there are 2 George Prices of similar age both b in same place - one has a wife Mary Ann other has a sister Mary Ann

as Nanny Jan has posted -but with a little more detail

1871 Church St Chesham Bucks
John Price Head M53 Bricklayer Chesham Bucks
Elizabeth wife M 52 Straw Plaiter Chalfont St Giles Bucks
Mary Ann sister 17 Brush maker (drawer) Chesham Bucks
GEORGE son 14 Straw Plaiter Chesham Bucks
Emily daughter 10 Straw Plaiter Chesham Bucks
RG10 1393 10 11

possibly this George Price married a Jessie Florence? and stayed in Chesham

Who did your George Price marry??

Suz

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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 September 12 03:15 BST (UK) »
WOW you guys are amazing.

thank you everyone for replying, its brilliant.

as to the George,  he was my hope to find my great geat grandmother.

what i know is my great grandmother Rebecca Stewart who was living and working in Croydon for the 1911 census.  and her younger sister Emily Stewart was possibly staying with her uncle george and aunt 'poll'.  I thought i found them in 1911 with a record for george and mary price at 37 Horseferry road with their niece Emily Stewart who was born in westminster which was the right area and the address is right from a postcard from years later. the1911 census said that george was about 52 and a Carman and it was on the form 37 horseferry road which was the location in the family notes. it said his place of bith is well i read it a chesham in buckingham but ancesrty says kingham but there is no way he wrote kingham. source RG14 PIECE 468. 

sorry i don't get yet how the full reference works.

What i'm trying to get from george is his siblings to find rebecca and emily stewarts mother Mary Ann Price who married William Stewart, had 7 or more children of which i have names for 7. Mary Ann died aged around 38 during childbirth and possibly the child too.  i don't know anything else for her, but i know rebecca was born 24 oct 1892 in lambeth. london.  her siblings were all around the westminster area born, worked and died. Emily was younger by less than 1-5 years. so it would be about right emily was 15 in 1911 and was staying with aunt and uncle which would need to be george to have carried the price name. 

george married but postcards are signed aunt poll, but my gran says thats a nickname for mary.  i don't know her maiden name. 

i think i have made all that very hard to follow, sorry. 



i really appreciate you all posting to my request.  ;D



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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 September 12 03:44 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat!

This is the 1901 with what appears to be Rebecca and Emily:-

William Stewart 36 Widower occ Waterside Labourer b Middx
William C 12 b Middx
Alfred G 10 b Middx
Rebecca 8 b Surrey
Albert 6 b Middx
Emily 5 b Middx
Residing at 5, Romney Street, St George Hanover Square, London
Census Ref RG13/91/39/40

1891 Census

William Stewart 26 occ General Lab b Lambeth
Mary Ann 27 b Chesham
Amelia 6
Ellen Elizabeth 4
William 2
Alfred 10 days
Residing at 5, Romney Street
All children born Westminster
Census Ref RG12/78/98/9

You may already have this information, but thought I would post to assist if needed for further research!

So going on Mary Ann's age in 1891, then in 1871 she appears to shown as aged 7 and shown as Grandaughter to a Daniel and Sarah Worrall at Waterside, Chesham, Bucks Census Ref RG10/1394/93/12
 
Marriage Amelia Dell June 1854 Amersham 3a 409
Marriage George Price June 1854 Amersham 3a 4(2)9
Both have a spouse missing
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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 September 12 11:24 BST (UK) »
there is a problem here
There are 2 George Prices of similar age b Chesham - both have sisters Mary Ann!!!!

George Price son of John and Elizabeth was a brushmaker and seems to have stayed in Chesham

George Price son of George and Amelia moved to London and was a carman
So it seems this George Price is most probably the uncle of Rebecca & Emily Stewart
Another problem - his sister Mary Ann Price was age 2 in 1861 census

1861
16 Gardeners lane Westminster
George Price head M 29 Carman Chesham Bucks
Amelia wife 30 Chesham
George son 4 Chesham
Mary A daughter 2 Chesham
William Spittle Boarder 19 Carman Middlesex
RG9 52 81 32

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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 September 12 14:18 BST (UK) »
Hello and welcome to RootsChat -which is free!!!
You will find there is a lot of information to be found freely - a lot transcribed by volunteers - an enormous amount of information frre by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (commonly known as "Mormons") - the pay sites are for a reason - they have usually had to pay to transcribe images etc -and so it is a business -withoout paying subscriptions these companies would not be able to keep going .
Ancestry is a subscription site but you can have free access  at a library.

Now for your request - are you certain Mary Ann is George's sister - if I am looking at the correct family Mary Ann is his wife????

there is this family
1871
16A Phenix Yard Phenix Stables Westminster  London
George Price head M 38 labourer Newcastle Northumberland
Amelia wife 40 Chesham Bucks
GEORGE son 14 Chesham Bucks
James son 8 Westinster
Charles son 5 Westminster
Elizabeth daughter 3 Westminster
Alfred son 1 Westminster
RG10 109 100 40

if you look at 1881 (free to view at familysearch)census George is head of household with wife mary age 21, brother James 18, brother Charles 15, sister Elizabeth 13, brother Alfred 11, sister Rebecca age 8

????

Suz

Hi all living next door on same census ref for 1881 RG11/111/39/72 are:-

James Stewart 50 b Westminster
Elizabeth 51 b Portsmouth
Charles 20
WILLIAM 16
Charlotte 14
Albert 11
All children b Lambeth
Residing at 1, Little Tutton Street, Westminster
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PS any thoughts on the Mary Ann Price aged 16 in Lambeth b Buckinghamshire on RG11/607/71/2

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Re: GEORGE PRICE - Chesham, Buckingham
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 17:17 BST (UK) »
Hi again tanithrea, as you have access to the 1911 census, the George and Mary Price that Emily Stewart aged 15 was on, could I just ask 2 questions:-

Were they married approx 33/4 years and was Mary also born Westminster, if so would this marriage fit, George Price to Mary Sullivan June 1877 St George Hanover Square 1a 720 if so looks like the George and Mary in 1881?

Also these deaths which may explain why George b 1857 was with his siblings in 1881:-

Death George Price Dec qtr 1877 St George Hanover Sq 1a 240 aged 44
Death Amelia Price Dec qtr 1880 Lambeth 1d 222 aged 50
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