John Thomas Birch & mary

[JCFod]

hi wondering if anyone can help im trying to  find  parents on a John Thomas Birch born 1853 i believe in cheshire

also   he had a wife called mary born 1851  which is all i know which one day  took her son fredrick birch born 1870 to school at the age of 2  and never returned to pick him up or heard from again

any help on this will be wonderful
thanks in advance

[rosie99]

Hi

It would help us if you could give us some details, working backwards is normally easiest for us so where do you have Frederick in the census?

Rosie

[JCFod]

hi rosie sorry bout that  john thomas was born in bucks
but fredrick was  london found him in  1911 census with his wife elizabeth  ( Fredrick aged 42 born in London, living at 95 Nashville St in Salford, occupation ship’s rigger) but cant find anything on his mother mary

[mosiefish]

Hi,

Are you sure you have the correct Frederick on the 1911 census?

I am fairly sure that he married Elizabeth Ann Bratt at St Lukes Salford and his father was named as Robert Birch, Moulder:

Marriage: 6 Aug 1906 St Luke, Weaste, Lancashire, England
Frederic Birch - 38 years Seaman Widower of 32 Leopold St.
Elizabeth Ann Bratt - 35 years Spinster of 32 Leopold St.
Groom's Father: Robert Birch, Moulder
Bride's Father: William Bratt, (deceased), Jeweller
Witness: Fred Hargreaves; Rose Flear
Married by Banns by: W. L. Cottrell

Mo

[JCFod]

ok now im stumped

fredrick birch  b 1895 married hilda bernice carling b 1896 (great granfather)
son
fredrick birch b 1870 married elizabeth ann bratt b 1869 (2nd great granfather

fredrick's father  which we thou was john thomas birch b 1853 wife mary

[heywood]

Hello,

1871 has a Frederick G Birch aged 6 months born Chesham Bucks.
His parents are John and Mary.
1871   1394/104/10

Unfortunately, John and Mary were born abt 1834 and 1831.

Where do you get their years of birth from?

Not him- married someone else

heywood

[JCFod]

hi
 im sure my mother  was told them by one of the relations but i will check up on  this

i know  fredrick b 1885  and hidra bernice carling are right names also
fredrick b 1870 and  elizabeth ann bratt

it could be the name john thomas  thats wrong  wasnt sure  who he married just that fredrick b 1870 mother left him at school age 2 and never came back no one  knows what happened to her or when she went:(

[Milliepede]

Age 2 was young to go to school wasn't it or do you mean she took him to a random school and left him there 

[JCFod]

it could be some sort of nursery of some kind