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Offline josey

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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 September 12 18:02 BST (UK) »
There's a death of an Albert Ashton
Mar 1908
Ashton    Albert    40    Birmingham    6d   98    
and an Amy Ashton
Jun 1910 
Ashton    Amy    42    Birmingham    6d   55   

Still looking for them on the 1901 census & for a marriage.

LATER:
Albert Ashton       6d 85 Jul-Aug-Sep 1886   Birmingham   Warwickshire      
Amy Davis       6d 85 Jul-Aug-Sep 1886   Birmingham   Warwickshire
so they should be on the 1891 & 1901 census as a couple.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 September 12 18:15 BST (UK) »
Hi

It looks like Sophia Emigrated to Canada


Ontario Canada Marriages 1801-1928
 Sophia Ashton
Birth Place Birmingham, England
Age: 19
 Father  Albert Ashton
Mother Amy Davis
Spouse  Frederich House
 Age: 23
Spouse Birth Place Hamilton Ont
 Father Name: George Frederich House
 Mother Name: Lousia Burkholder
Marriage Date 5 Apr 1924
Marriage County or District: Wentworth

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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 September 12 18:36 BST (UK) »
Well spotted Marg.

Who were the witnesses to Leonard & Caroline's marriage? What was Caroline's maiden surname?

Josey
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 September 12 19:24 BST (UK) »
Hi

Familysearch as this Marriage

Leonard Reeves b 1864
Caroline Owens b 1865
Married 6 Sept 1866 St Peter and St Paul Aston Warwick
Brides Father Francis Owens
Grooms Father Thomas Reeves
Both Single

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Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich


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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 September 12 02:34 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I've sent off for the birth certificate to see if that sheds any light on who she is because no one in the family knows anything about it that's why I wondered if she was there for the night. But then she is listed as adopted daughter age 6, in 1911 I wasn't sure what that meant fully. Her surname doesn't match anyone in the family
Hayley

In those days there was a lot of unofficial adoptions and in poor areas babies were bought and sold. It occasionally happened that a man whose wife [or partner] had died in childbirth passed the baby to someone better able to mind it and the loan became with the passage of time an unofficial adoption, with usually a childless couple involved, posing as an aunt and uncle. I would hazard a guess that when people sorted 'these things' out for themselves they did a better job of it than modern day Social Services. I had an uncle who was sold and bought for £5-00 as a baby, and no one thought it unusual. This was in Middlesbrough, which is one of those say-no-more- towns-where nothing that happened surprised anyone.

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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 September 12 09:56 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sophia returned to England in 1956, the address given where she was staying was 159 Hurlington Rd Birmingham, is this address familiar to you.

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Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
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Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
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Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 September 12 14:26 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone,
My laptop charger has broke so I'm having to use my phone for Internet at the moment and as you can imagine cant really do much searching etc on there. But I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who's searched and found things I really appreciate it and didn't expect it, i was hoping for suggestions of where to look at most so thank you. Once I'm back online I'll take a look at everything in more detail and follow things up. it is certainly one fascinating aspect of my tree.

Just a quick thing I wanted to check is about the marriage witnesses, is it possible to find out the marraige witnesses? Only this would help with another family member I have.

Thank you again to everyone! I really do appreciate all this.
(There is another post i made concerning the Ashton's in the warwickshire board purely because I thought someone from there might recognise the family so if you see this same post twice i've just copied this message to explain my Internet circumstance!

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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 September 12 14:34 BST (UK) »
As far as I know you can only find out marriage witnesses from a copy of the certificate or the actual register.

GRO ref:
Sep 1886 Aston    6d   311

Josey
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Did the army recognise 'adopted' Children 1915??
« Reply #17 on: Friday 14 September 12 14:37 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have related this to your other topic so things don't get duplicated

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich