Author Topic: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox  (Read 15035 times)

Offline Windsor87

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 447
  • Rose of Ballivat
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #45 on: Friday 07 September 12 22:23 BST (UK) »
Having an interest in the Rose family, I've tracked down James Rose's wife, Isabella Falder.

She died down in Partick, Lanark in 1861 aged about 59 years in a Lunatic Asylum...widow of ----- Rose.
Strachan of Strichen/New Pitsligo - Connon of Turriff - Watt of Pennan - Noble of Broadsea -  Garden of Peterhead - Bryson of Ecclefechan

Offline MasterHatter

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 23
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #46 on: Friday 07 September 12 23:43 BST (UK) »
Great programme.  Wish I had seen all the footage. Naff though this sounds, half the fun - and most of the satisfaction - of pursuing one's ancestors comes from the chase...  ;)

My great, great grandfather was Irish but died in Glasgow.  I was seriously impressed with the information on the Scottish certificate when I found his death certificate on Scotland's people.  Had he died in Ireland, I would still be in the dark about two generations of my family. Pleased that the the programme spent time on the detail. 

Hopefully the Patrick Steward episode was a one-off. 

Annie 1[00]  Patrick 0

MH

Offline Maggie1895

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,070
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 08 September 12 13:10 BST (UK) »
It's still frustrating though isn't it?  The 'celebrities' always seem to be satisfied, "now I know..." whereas all of us would be screaming "know?! you haven't scratched the surface! what about grandma? what about the brothers and sisters? what happened to so and so?" and go on and on and on searching for the next ten years... 


  Only 10 years?
 
:D :D :D :o :o ;D 

I must have a short attention span!
Census information Crown Copywright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk / National Archives of Scotland

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,845
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 09 September 12 21:50 BST (UK) »
Yes, a good episode. Especially interesting because it's the first one I've ever seen that used exclusively Scottish records, so I was better able than usual to understand the jumps and assumptions and spot the bits they left out.

I had the 1851 census for James Rose up on FreeCEN before Annie got her copy of it, and given that he was born in Turriff I was already speculating about Mrs Cruickshank being related to him.

Also, was silently yelling at the screen to look for Janet when Annie wasn't finding Jessie, and vice versa.

But I do wish that they hadn't kept on referring to the entries in the parish registers as 'birth certificate' and 'marriage certificate' because they aren't.

Also wish that they wouldn't always produce documents in places other than where they are kept. She didn't actually need to go to Banff to do the research, and anyone who got the idea that they have to go to Banff to research their ancestors in Banff would end up making a wasted journey.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


Offline Craclyn

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,462
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 09 September 12 21:55 BST (UK) »
Now I am envious of you all. Wish I could see it. Will probably have to wait another year until it comes out on dvd. I finally got hold of the previous series in August when the dvds were released.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

Offline Grothenwell

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 608
  • Love Endures Delay
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #50 on: Monday 10 September 12 11:45 BST (UK) »
Good episode. I hope the old mill gets preserved for future generations to visit.

Blue
Further to my earlier reply: see link
http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/CouncilNews/ci_cns/pr_broadfordworks_190712.asp
Aberdeenshire; Brechin, Robb, Clark, Hardie, Johnston, Watt, Elmslie, Milne, Harper, Adam, Edmond, Laing, Gibson, Aedie, Jameson, Argo & Doverty.
Booth, Watson, Grothenwell, Ewen, Mackie, Simpson, Piper, Taylor, Davidson, Willox, Chalmers & Gordon
Still, Fraser, Robertson, Burnet & Lumsden
Banffshire; Cruickshank, Bennet, Broug, Allen, West & Lyal
Caithness; Sutherland
Herefordshire, Worcester, Monmouthshire, Gloucestershire; Wagstaff, Jones, Turner, Wiggett, Hannes

Offline Archivos

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 614
  • Work is the curse of the drinking classes
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #51 on: Monday 10 September 12 12:23 BST (UK) »
Some Episcopal records are held at Aberdeen City & Aberdeenshire Archives (www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/archives) and some at the University of Aberdeen's Special Collections (www.abdn.ac.uk/historic/Intro.shtml).  It's the same with the Banff parochial board records - it's held by the City & Shire Archives as well!

Thank you Archivos! Are they separate records, or duplicated? Do you know if they would they be the same as transcribed by the late Strath Maxwell for ANESFHS?
The Episcopal records haven't been transcribed by anyone, as far as I know!  I know Strath Maxwell did the St Paul's ones, but I don't think he would have had access to many of the others.  Perhaps I sense an indexing project for these records?! 

The poor relief records are in the process of being digitised as well - not sure where they'll be made available online, but possibly through the Scotland's Places website, which now has a subscription section.

Offline Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,845
  • http://www.rootschat.com/links/01ruz/
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #52 on: Monday 10 September 12 17:39 BST (UK) »
Have the register of applications and register of poor for Banff survived? If so, I wonder why they didn't look Janet/Jessie Fraser up in those records - they might even have shed some light on Mrs Cruickshank.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

Offline Archivos

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 614
  • Work is the curse of the drinking classes
    • View Profile
Re: BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode 4 Annie Lennox
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 11 September 12 16:12 BST (UK) »
Have the register of applications and register of poor for Banff survived? If so, I wonder why they didn't look Janet/Jessie Fraser up in those records - they might even have shed some light on Mrs Cruickshank.
No - only the minutes from 1896 - 1928 have survived for Banff, along with an abstract of accounts from 1930.  The surviving poor relief material for Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire and Morayshire is listed on Aberdeen City & Aberdeenshire Archives online catalogue at www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/onlinecatalogue.  You can search for whichever parish you're interested in, and see what's listed for it.  The records are held at the Dunbar Street office of the Archives.