Jones/Grice/Beech/Swatman

[DavidJ1952]

Hi all,

I'm not sure if I am posting this request in the right place but,

I am searching for descendants of Robert Jones, bricklayer of Cross Street Blakenall. 1850 - 1885, and his wife Emma Williams both natives of North Wales;


Daughter Elizabeth Jones b. 1848 at Stafford m. Richard Owen 1867 (dec) then George Grice 1872, both at Wolverhampton. Daughter Emily Owen b. 1868. Then; Alfred (Grice) b.1872, George b. 1882 Robert b. 1885, then Florence b.1889 Address; 17 Hawthorn Road Wolverhampton, 1901 Census.

Daughter Mary Ann Jones, b. Walsall 1850, m. Joseph Beech b. 1846. Their
children Emma b.1876, Robert b. 1879, Charles b. 1880.
Address 1881 Census; 9 Dalton Street Chorlton on Medlock, Lancashire

Son Alfred Jones, b. 1853 at Wolverhampton. married Sarah Anne 1872, their son Thomas b.1876 married Ellen 1909, their daughter Katherine Mabel b.1909 married Samuel J Swatman 1938 at Bilston, Address 1911 Census; 74 Oxford Street Bilston

My apologies for this being such a mouthful but I am trying to trace English relatives whom I have never known, especially descendants of Katherine Mabel Swatman (Jones).

Alfred Jones' son Thomas would have been aged 38 at the outbreak of WW1, I have no information  if he survived the war or not and another son Arthur b. 1878 I believe was deceased by 1911 Census

Thanks, David

[CaroleW]

Hi David

Could you clarify Roberts birthyear please as it doesn't tie in with the childrens birthyears

Robert Jones, bricklayer of Cross Street Blakenall. 1850 - 1885

[DavidJ1952]

Oh sorry Carole, ..silly me

Robert Jones born c.1820 at Holywell Flint.
Emma williams b. 1826 Welshpool Montgomeryshire.

Robert's marriage being at St. Nicholas Liverpool, 4 July 1847. The family's address at Blakenhall was 26 Cobden Street, from 1850 approx, then by 1881 had moved to 44 Cross Street. Thomas, son of Alfred living at 26 Cobden Street by 1881 Census, and Elizabeth (Grice) living at 62 Franchise Street Blakenhall.

Robert and Emma migrated to Australia in October 1885, following their youngest son Thomas and his wife Phoebe and children Emma, Frederick and Ellen who emmigrated a year earlier in 1884.

Not sure about Robert's exact birth date, ..possibly 1822. Father Edward, miner and mother Margaret (according to 1897 death cert.)

Regards, David J

[CaroleW]

Hi
I know this doesn't answer the query re: descendants but the 1847 marriage cert shows Robert occ bricklayer - father Edward a miner

Emma's father was Thomas occ labourer

Witnesses were Hugh Hughes and Ann Edwards

You probably already have this info but just in case


Freebmd shows 3 Swatman births with a mothers maiden name of Jones - 1939-1953

Because they could still be alive - I cannot post details here but will send you a pm

[wrjones]

There is already a thread from someone else about this couple.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

I know there is another thread as I found the Liverpool(1847) marriage for someone.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[wrjones]

You didn't answer me did you?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,607954.0.html

Regards
William Russell Jones.

[CaroleW]

Two other links shown on that thread

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0p15/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0p16/

[CaroleW]

You didn't answer me did you?

David is offline so presume this is meant for me.  I opt for a permanent login to RC so when my PC is on - it may look as though I am on RC - but I do leave my PC for periods at a time