Jane Wade b.1860 middlesex

[Valda]

Hi

On the 1881 census Ellen Reading nee Harris the wife of Moses gives her age as 27 and her birthplace as Winscombe Somerset.

1841 census HO107 968 Bk10 folio 6
South Street Winscombe Somerset
Thomas Harris 40 Ag lab
Jane Harris 40
Charles Harris 14
Eliza Harris 11
William Harris 9
John Harris 7
Stephen Harris 3
George Harris 9 months
All born in county

1851 census HO107 1937 folio 55
Winscombe Somerset
Thomas Harris 49 Head Married Ag lab Winscombe Somerset
Jane Harris 51 Wife Married Shipham Somerset
Mary Harris 17 Daughter Winscombe Somerset
Stephen Harris 12 Son Winscombe Somerset
George Harris 10 Son Winscombe Somerset
Ellen Harris 8 Daughter Winscombe Somerset
Frank Harris 6 Son Winscombe Somerset
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Valda

[Valda]

Hi

A possible considering Mary Ann Wade junior was baptised Mary Ann Mabel

8th October 1830 Hay Breconshire
Mary Ann Johns parents William and Mabel


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Valda

[Valda]

Hi

Possible first marriage for William Wade on Family Search

13th December 1840 St Mark Kennington Lambeth
William Wade unmarried father's name William Wade
Harriet Hiller unmarried father's name John Hillier


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Valda

[dogueduthibet]

Hi Valda
Amazing where you get all your info. from!
I havn't found any Welsh baptism records on the sites I use, or which males married which females.
I havn't sent for William's will - not sure where to?
I have just sent for William Charles' birth cert. When you look at the actual image for the 2 page references (530 and 550) they both say 550. I have assumed the year 1842 is right even though the 1861 and 1891 cens. say b.1848. I'll let you know who the mother is when it comes(usually takes about 2 weeks to France)
If William married Harriett Hiller in 1840 she could well be the mother of Wm.Chs.
I've got plenty of updating to do on my tree now
Thanks Colleen

[Valda]

Hi Colleen

Information in obtaining a copy of the will

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills
http://hmctscourtfinder.justice.gov.uk/HMCTS/GetForm.do?court_forms_id=739

The possible baptism for Mary Ann Johns was taken from Family Search.

William Charles' age on the actual original census page for 1861 is 18. I don't work from indexes always the original unless I state something like Family Search. The census gives ages not birth years. It is the age on the night so if you don't know the exact date of birth it could always be one of two years (if their age is accurate). He does drop his age to 43 on the 1891 census but he has much younger second wife by then. He appears to have died in 1919 aged 76.

I haven't seen the actual marriage entry for 1840 only an index so I can't confirm through additional information such as occupations. Their is a potential Harriet Wade death registration in Stepney in 1846.

If Eliza Harris was 11 on the 1841 census, then her age on the 1861 census of 34 would be incorrect. That means the death registration in Wandsworth registration district (which covered Clapham) in 1866 for an Eliza Wade aged 35 (June quarter) could be a possibility.


Enjoy the updating


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Valda

[dogueduthibet]

hello again Valda
just to let you know I have received William Charles birth cert.(b. 11th may 1842) and it confirms his mother was Harriet Hiller.
Still can't find a record of a marriage to Eliza Harris though.
Thanks once again
Colleen

[Valda]

Hi Colleen

They may of course have not married and lived together as man and wife. They may have just chosen to do that or there may have been an impediment to the marriage such as either having a spouse still living. Or Eliza married in a different surname, but for that you would still need a Willam Wade marriage to an Eliza.


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Valda