FRASER/FRAZER/FRAISER- Can you Help Please !!

[Faysie]

I am in need of help in finding the Birthplace of a Hugh Fraser/Frazer/Fraiser who married Mary Ferguson (aka Fargason on IGI Records) perhaps she had an accent??-  they married @ Wednesbury, Staffordshire in May 1831.

They had a son named Alexander who ws Baptised @ High Offley, Staffordshire.... and on the Parish Register Alexander's parents were named Hugh Fraiser and Mary Fargason/Ferguson- hence the assumption of an accent.

It is really Alexander's father Hugh that I am trying to find out where he was born?.. either Scotland or Ireland or perhaps somewhere else in England.. I wonder if someone has access to the Parish Marriage Transcripts of Wednesbury, Staffordshire they could assist me. as I live in Australia and cannot find out this information.

it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You for your patience.

Faysie.

[linell]

The Parish Registers will not give any parents names for the Marriage in 1831 only Witnesses and the place of abode is often not precise.  Your best hope is finding them on the Census.  Or you could try finding them in a Trade Directory, what was their Occupation?

HTH Linell.

[Faysie]

Dear HTH Linell,

Thank you for your reply. I know in the UK Census Hugh was listed as a Mechanic,Oil Driller etc, but they would ot be in a Census either in 1831..

Would there be a way of finding out who the Witness's were at their Marriage?

Thank
Faysie

[linell]

Hi Faysie, can you post what Census info you have, that will give a place of birth.   If you give me the date of the marriage for Hugh and Mary I can look it up for you I am going to Stafford Archives next week. 

Linell.

[Faysie]

Thanks Linell I will send you the information after Dinner.

Cheers for now

Faysie

[Faysie]

Dear Linell,

Hugh Fraiser/Frazer/Fraser ( name changes all the time) married Mary Ferguson @ Wednesbury Staffordshire 25May, 1831. the Witness's were Hugh' sister Emily Frazer (name change again) & Peter Forrest... I do not know if they married by Licence or Banns.

Hugh's occupation was either Mechanic, Iron/Boiler- Engineer- along those lines.

Should you be lucky enough to find a copy of their Marriage, would it be possible to either take a Digital Camera or a USB stick and take a copy of their Marriage Certificate, no matter what's on it... I know in my Local Histroy Society they all this to be done...

As I mentioned I'm desperate to find out (a) Hugh's Fathers name and (b) where Hugh was born.

Thanks so much for your patience and I look forward to hearing from you.

With Much appreciation for your kindness,

Faysie

[Faysie]

ooops... Just remembered, Hugh & Mary had a son names Alexander who was born in a house called " Slymonsdale" which is near Baldwin's Gate. , and Alexander was Baptised @ High Offlley,,

Cheers for Now
Faysie

[linell]

Hi Faysie, will see what I can do, you seem to already have the details, the Witnesses etc.  Is it just a copy you want?  Where are the family in 1841 and 1851?  That will give Hugh's place of birth.  Baldwins Gate is near Newcastle no where near High Offley, where did you get this information from.  Slymondsdale is on my Map it looks like the name of a Wood not a house?

Linell.

[Faysie]

Morning Linell,

Methinks I have given you a " Bum Steer" with the Witness's.Sorry about that... I have spent the last 5 hours going through all my paperwork. As I mentioned I am trying to find out where Hugh Frazer/Fraiser/Fraser was born.. so here are the facts.

Hugh Fraiser married Mary Fargason (Ferguson 26 May 1831 @ St. Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Staffordshire ( Source IGI Batch # MO5520-2). I would love a copy of their Marriage Certificate/ Parish Registery. as this hopefully will tell me where both he & Mary were born., and Married either by Licence or after Banns.

they had the following children.
Alexander Frazer Baptised @ High Offley 1832
Anne          "                    "         1834
William      Fraser "          @ Maer         1836
Elizabeth Ferguson Fraser @ Maer 1837..... Source IGI,... Note the change of names on the IGI Records.

so it's a fact they definately lived in Staffordshire from 1831 through to at least 1837...

On the UK Census Alexander ( the son) always said he was born in Manchester from 1851 up until 1891 when on that UK Census he said he was born in Slymonsdale, Gloucest ( now the Enumerator could easily have got tis wrong, as it turns out it was Staffordshire...Now I have proof that it was Staffordshire where he was Baptised.

According to the Staffordshire records Office. the 1889 Ordanance Survey May 1889 of Baldwin's Gate area- shows that Slymonsdale was a house on the road to Baldwin's Gate to Camp Hall. on a road that is now called Camp Hill... In the Parish of Maer.

Hugh seems to have died october 1837 @ Maer, Staffordshire. ?? ( I searched the NBI records for this.)

Perhaps the Marriage of Hugh & Mary may solve the problem for me and I would be grateful for any information and a copy of the said Marriage Cert or Parish Register.. could also show the Witness's... I could not find any Ferguson's living in or around Wednesbury either.... seems strange as usually Marriage take place around where the bride lives.

Again my Thanks and appreciation.. if anyone reading this message can help me that would be fantasic.

Cheers from a very Frustrated Researcher... LOL

Faysie