Archibald Allen from Carlow and Ballybrack

[maggiegorey]

Hi
As Im on a roll here today, I'd like to ask for some more help

My great grandfather Archibald Allen (born carlow 1832/33) married Kate Byrne from Wicklow.
He died in Ballybrack and is buried in Deansgrange cemetary.
The problem is that we cant find a birth cert for him, or a marriage cert for him and Catherine (Kate)

It would have ben a mixed marriage, Archibald being CI and Kate RC.
I have birth certs for almost all of their children,and they seem to all have been baptised in Pro-Cathedral.
The only Archibald I can find for that date is listed as being the son of George Allen and Elizabeth?
The nearest Kate I can find was born in Hacketstown (which is now Carlow but was probably Wicklow ) in 1859.
Any help would be much appreciated.

[taramcdsmall]

Hiya

Where have you gotten that Archibald was from Carlow ?

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

So he had obviously passed away by 1901 as Catherine is listed as a widow

allen family 1901 Irish Census

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Hiya

I can see some prison records for him and yes they say he was born in Carlow

Tara

[maggiegorey]

Hi Tara
I got the info from both family members and from the irish Genealogy site.
The prison bit is new though!!!
Where did you come across that??
I know the Allens that Ive had contact with had a history with the irish Constabulary - any chance he was'nt a felon???

[taramcdsmall]

These are them

archibald allen prison records

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Hi Maggie

While the irishgenealogy site that you have mentioned is great it doesn't have all the records from Carlow

I have also noticed tho on the site an Archibald Allen marrying in 1867

archibald allen 1867 marriage

I think this chap HAS to be a cousin of your Archibald !

He states on this that his father's name was Benjamin and we know that YOUR Archibald named one of his son's Benjamin.....................!

If you look at the following

the name benjamin allen in carlow

the same names are repeated

There is a Lancelot Allen and an Amelia Allen

names which we know carried on in your family

Might be worth following up !

Tara

[maggiegorey]

Hi Tara

All of these Allens are the correct family, cost my mother hd a cousin Benny, Lancelot, Amelia (all of whose birth certs Ive found)

Everyone seems to have been born, but noone seems to have been married

[taramcdsmall]

Hiya

Did you get though the fact that I'm saying that these were obviously family names in Archibald's past from Carlow as witnessed on the irishgenealgoy site !

Are you over the shock of the prison records yet LOL !

I think we've all found some relation on there !

Tara