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Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« on: Monday 03 September 12 15:05 BST (UK) »
Hi
Im new - only signed up today.
Ive made fairly good progress with the family but have trouble in tracing my late FIL family.
There is a Elizabeth Harding on the 1911 census, working for the Tottenhams in Ballycurry Demesne.
As far as I can figure out, she would be my FIL aunt, although we think he didnt know of her existence.
How can I find what happened to her?
Ive tried IFHF, but no records.
Cant find anything on a passenger list, and cant find a death cert.
Please help.
Maggie

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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 September 12 15:11 BST (UK) »
for reference here's a link that 1911 census return :

   Tottenham household, Ballycurry Demesne, Co. Wicklow

IFHF/RootsIreland has mostly parish records, and covers up to about 1900 for most areas.

For more recent Civil records the BMD Index would be a better bet...

see:  Introduction to Irish Records
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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 September 12 15:15 BST (UK) »
possible match for Elizabeth with family in 1901 - as 'Bessie'

   Harding household, Ballyedmonduff, Co. Dublin


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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 September 12 15:26 BST (UK) »
There's a marriage on the BMD Index of an Elizabeth Harding that might be worth checking out if you havn't already. It took place somewhere in Rathdown District, which is the one which covers south east Co. Dublin and north Co. Wicklow and includes Glencullen etc.

Ballycurry where Elizabeth is living and working in 1911 is in Rathdrum district which is to the south of Rathdown.

  Name: Elizabeth Harding
  Registration district:   Rathdown
  Event type: Marriage
  Quarter and year: Apr-Jun 1912
  Volume : 2 / Page: 816

There are just a few other marriages listed for that name after 1911,  the only others on the east coast are Dublin South in 1928, Dundalk in 1918. Others seem too far out of the area, or too late..


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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 September 12 16:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Shane
Hope this works this time
Been trying to post a reply for last few mins
Thank you so much for your help and information.
Will check out the links
The Bessie mentioned is the same Elizabeth, and she must have moved to Ballycurry to work.
Maggie

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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 September 12 18:28 BST (UK) »
I think this could be Elizabeth's birth on the BMD Index...
   
  Name: Elizabeth Harding
  Registration district:   Rathdown
  Event type: Birth
  Quarter and year: Jul-Sep 1891
  Volume: 2 / Page:   787

see : Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
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which of Elizabeth's siblings is your connection ?


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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 September 12 18:37 BST (UK) »
working back on Elizabeth's Harding aunts & uncles - there are some possible children for John & Ann listed in extracted births on FamilySearch - starting off in Co. Wexford in the 1860s and later in Co. Dublin.. two are listed as Harden, but possibly a mishearing, or mistranscription

see : Harding / Hanlon births

and there's a possible marriage for John and Ann in Gorey district, Co. Wexford - which could fit with John's place of birth :

  Groom: John Harding (single)
  Bride:   Anne Hanlon (single)
  Marriage date:   20 May 1867
  Marriage place: Gorey, Co. Wexford
  Groom's father: Wm. Harding
  Bride's father: John Hanlon

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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 September 12 19:18 BST (UK) »
the rest of the Harding family have moved by 1911 to the townland of Newtown Little, which is adjacent to Ballyedmonduff townland where they were in 1901. These townlands are just west of Stepaside and Kilgobbin and on the edge of the Dublin mountains.

see : Harding household - 1911


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Re: Hardings from Glencullen/Kilternan/Ballyedmonduff
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 September 12 20:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Shane
Just wanted to publicly say a very big thank you.
I have been searching for this man and his wife for two years!!!
We knew he was born in Wexford or Wicklow (depending on the boundary) but got misdirected by the Hanlon on some of the certs.
It never occurred to anyone that Anne Hanlon was possibly from Gorey
I cvant wait to go into the parish office tomorrow :) :)