Goviers in Arlingham

[Zenick]

Looking for info on several Govier relatives who came from the Arlingham area :-

John (Jennings Day) Govier (1852-1912)  - according to 1911 census he was an inn keeper at the Red Lion in Arlingham

William Henry John (Day) Govier (1881-1944) John & Florence son - married on 4 Aug 1912 in Arlingham Parish Church (he was an Electrical eng.) - he married Gladys G Smith.

Any info on these or any othe members of their family woyld be appreciated esp burial locations etc.

Nick

[Victor Harvey]

Hi Zenick,
As I was visiting Glos Archives (GA) today I thought I'd have a go at your data request and checked out the following parish records of St Mary, Arlingham:-
1813-1887 Baptisms
1813-1878 Marriages
1813-1874 Burials
The ONLY record I could find with the GOVIER surname is as follows:-
Source: GA PFC 18 IN 1/11 2, Entry No 191
August 4th, 1912, William Henry GOVIER, 30, Bachelor, Electrical Engineer of Arlingham, f. John Jennings GOVIER, Hotel Keeper, m. Gladys Gwendoline SMITH, 19, Spinster of Arlingham, f. Henry Lionel SMITH, Master Mariner.
Both groom and bride signed their names in the presence of Robert H WILLIAMS and Grace Vernon SMITH.

[Bilge]

In 1927 there was a William H Jennings listed as Landlord of the Malt Shovel, The Square, Ruardean. He appears to have been in residence until about 1939.

Could this be your man?

Or carry out a search of this database.

http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPubs_view.php

[Zenick]

Victor -

Many thanks for the info on these - it verifies some of the info I have here

Bilge -

Not sure if this is any relation right now - kinda interesting as most of that part of the family had an interest in inns/pubs  - either owning or running them

Nick Govier

[JonShaw58]

Hi Nick - the landlords of the Red Lion, Arlingham, Glos goes something like this.

By the way, I gather Mabel Aldridge was there in 1911 as a servant She was my great aunt.

I still live 100 yards away from the pub. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/grin.gif

Anyway here goes on previous landlords of The Red Lion, Arlingham

1782: Henry Carter
1802: Thomas Carter
1820s B. Reece
1830s: Betty Fryer
1845: Joseph Fryer
1853: Jesse Vimpany
1860: John Varney
1870: George Markey
1880: Daniel Hayward
1889: Henry Clayfield
1889: Jim Wilkins
1894: Jim Sendall
1900: James Proctor
1906: George Ashby
1910: Florence Govier
1912: Edmund Gabb
1919: John Stevens
1944: Albert Daw
1952: Ernest Wager
1964: Stan Browning
1966: Bernard Boulton
1969: Ken Bale
1973: Colin Broadbent
1976: Brian Davies
1978: John Large
1982: Lucie Swainson
1986: Alan & John   Packman
1995: Bob Jones
1999: Easton Hogben
2001: Jan Codner
2007: Rebecca and Karen
           Clutterbuck
2010: Doug & Julie Bentley
2011: Les & Danielle Pipes

[Zenick]

Jon,

Thanks for the info on Mabel & the Red Lion, glad to see it is still there - do you know of anyplace on the internet I can get old pics of it?

As you see in 1910 - Florence is listed too (John's wife) - unsure why they don't mention John here for 1910 as he was still alive until 1912 (as far as I know)

Nick

[JonShaw58]

Hi Nick - Yes I wondered that, especially if in 1911 John is listed at the Hotel/Innkeeper. So maybe an error on my part from whatever record I found that in or a recognition that often in those days the man of the house worked on other things whilst his wife ran the pub.

There is  a village photo book that runs to some 384 pages with photos through the C20th including Arlingham School. It includes photos x2 of the Red Lion in circa 1905; one from circa 1909 at a meeting of Fretherne Beagles; one from around 1911;  loads more of the Red Lion through the century, plus Arlingham School photos throughout but few from first decade have names (we have those from only about 1914 onwards) but Gladys Gwendoline Smith will surely be pictured in the early school photos. Later photos have her brothers Christopher and Henry/Harry Smith and their wives etc.

Gladys Gwendoline Smith's father was, I believe, Captain and Mrs Henry Smith of St. Augustine’s Cottage in the High Street. He was the coal merchant for the village and hauled Forest of Dean coal by horse and cart from the pill at Arlingham Passage brought over by the craft named 'Finis' (photo in book). There's a later photo of his house and coalyard/sheds. Henry also is mentioned in other stories.

Anyway, bad  news is the book named , Where the River Bends' is out of print. But good news for ipad users is that it's being relaunched in a month or so as an ibook at a cost of £20, proceeds to Arlingham Church. It's better as an ibook as all the photos will be expandable so gives best chance of examining faces.

Kind regards

Jon

[Mabel Bagshawe]

A bit more on John Jennings Govier as landlord, fom British Newspaper archives free search

"... Jennings Govier, the Red Lion Inn, Arlingham, appeared answer a summons of adulterating brandy with water to the extent of 33 per ... ”

Saturday 13 April 1912 ,  Gloucester Journal

[JonShaw58]

If I could get hold of a copy of the Gloucester Journal entry we'd be tempted to frame it for the pub wall if you had no objection. But not sure how to source

J