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beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« on: Sunday 02 September 12 14:14 BST (UK) »
looking for information on the beehive pub that was i believe pulled down when newsouthgate high street was changed in i believe the sixties#also information on peter dear who was the landlord in the forties and died from a accident in 1941 . the pub was very close to the st john laurence pub and gasworks.ann

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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 September 12 18:25 BST (UK) »
according to the death index his name was peter.n.dear born about 1896
there is this birth which could well be him
name; peter nichols dear
y.o.r. 1895
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist;brentford,middx
vol;3a
page; 91
also there is this
peter nickols dear of the beehive,palmers road,new southgate died 28/1/1941 at the middlesex hospital
administration was granted in llandudno on the 27/3/1941 to his widow maria dear
effects;£692-7s-0d
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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 September 12 18:32 BST (UK) »
and here is the marriage
groom; peter nickols dear
age;20
status; bachelor
occ; painter
father; thomas dear
fathers occ; engineer
address at time of marr;11,kealey road,hounslow
bride; maria maslin
age; 20
status; spinster
father; edwin maslin
fathers occ; engine driver
address at time of marr; 8,kealey road,hounslow
witnesses; edward penny and may maslin
date of marr; 31/5/1914
place of marr; st.george church,old brentford,hounslow
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hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 September 12 18:37 BST (UK) »
here is probably his baptism
peter dear son of thomas/ellen dear was born on the 12th oct 1895 and baptised on the 10th nov 1895 at st.pauls church brentford
address at time of baptism; 6,bull lane
fathers occ at time of baptism; basket maker
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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 September 12 18:42 BST (UK) »
1901
RG13/1194/131/4
thomas dear age 39. b. brentford. occ. lamplighter and cycle maker. head
ellen age 41. b. ditto. wife
sarah age 16. b. ditto. daughter
kathleen age 10. b. ditto. daughter
horace age 8. b. ditto. son
peter age 6. b. ditto. son
harry age 4. b. ditto. son
living at;272,high street,st.paul,old brentford
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 September 12 18:48 BST (UK) »
his father thomas dear died 1934
here is the probate
thomas dear of 312,high street,brentford died on the 1/7/1934
probate was granted to horace dear (omnibus driver) in london on the 2/10/1934
effects;£3394-2s-9d
i should imagine his wife must have died prior to this
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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 September 12 18:57 BST (UK) »
peter dears mothers maiden name was ellen joyce ward
peters grandparents were john dear/elizabeth betsey james and george ward/ellen joyce
his mother ellen died just prior to the death of his father thomas
her death was regd in apr/may/jun qtr of 1934
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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 September 12 19:05 BST (UK) »
peter dear did have two children from his marr to maria maslin
peter dear born 1914 in brentford but he died in 1914 in brentford
edwin.t.dear born 1916 brentford died 1966 aged 49 in colchester
there is a probate for him but it is possible the person who was granted probate is still alive
so if you wish to know what was stated on the probate
it will have to be done by p.m
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vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: beehive pub palmers road newsouthgate
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 September 12 01:26 BST (UK) »
looking for information on the beehive pub that was i believe pulled down when newsouthgate high street was changed in i believe the sixties#also information on peter dear who was the landlord in the forties and died from a accident in 1941 . the pub was very close to the st john laurence pub and gasworks.ann

Hi Pike123,

I dont know much at all about Peter Dear but would be really grateful for any information you may have. Peter Dear was my GG Uncle, the younger brother of my paternal ggrandfather.

cheers

peter