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[LizzieW]

I would say that the Mary Barnatt who had the other illegitimate children was the one who had a child with John

Busy lady

Thank you for the info about the death of Marian, I wonder where that name came from?  They called the first child John after his father and apart from Marian there were no other girls, so none called Elizabeth.

[wilser]

There are windsor chairs signed BRAND SLEAFORD , but very few . One sold recently at Bury St Edmonds signed BRAND and MARSH SLEAFORD , which means John Brand was making windsor chairs with Thomas Marsh in Sleaford for a while . This is the first time such a chair has been recorded . Many chairs have been found signed just by MARSH .

[wilser]

It would not been unusual for a woodworker in the early 1800's to try and get into the expanding and lucrative market of making windsor chairs . For instance , John Amos in Grantham worked for many years as a wheelwright before branching out into making windsor chairs . In his will he left two fine Georgian houses on North Parade , Grantham .
To see images of these chairs , type :  John Amos Grantham  : into google .

[LizzieW]

Oh wow, thank you wilser.  I hadn't thought of him making chairs like that, I had in mind much simpler chairs and I certainly didn't think there'd still be any around.  Shame I didn't see the sale details, perhaps I could have bought the chair - do you know how much it was sold for?  I've found the sale it was only last Saturday and that particular chair sold for £300.  There were 4 other similar chairs but not marked with a name, on didn't sell. The others sold for amounts varying from £200 down to £70.

Lizzie

[wilser]

Pleased you liked the picture and information , Lizzie . With regard to the other windsor chairs in that sale : the lot before , 844 , is a typical early yew wood spindle back Lincolnshire chair , probably made in Grantham by Hubbard or Taylor . Lot 848 without doubt is a later chair by G. Wilson on Manthorpe road in Grantham and 871 looks like to be out of the workshop of Samual Wood again of Grantham . Chairs signed by Brand rarely appear on the market and I have yet to handle one and I have been looking for years . I have attached a piece out of a book which you may find of interest . Regards William .

[LizzieW]

Thank you so much, now I can appreciate that he was more than just a chairmaker.  In my mind he was a one man band just making the most basic chairs.

John died in 1850 from bronchitis, which I'm suffering from at the moment he was about 65 and although I'm older, I don't consider myself to have a fatal illness.  I've not taken any medication either.

[LizzieW]

Do you know what (fl 1826-51) in the descriptions means.  He definitely died in 1850 as I have his death certificate.

Lizzie

ps. Are you an ancestor of John Brand too, or just interested in his work?

[Geoff-E]

Do you know what (fl 1826-51) in the descriptions means.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floruit

[LizzieW]

Thank you, but the link suggests it is used for the time when someone flourished, so 1826 was presumably about the time he started chair-making, but 1851 is wrong as I have his death certificate and he definitely died in 1850, which you'd think anyone who knew about him and his chair-making would know.  Or perhaps they just quoted 1851 as there were no chairs from that time onwards with his name on them.

Lizzie

ps.  He would have been about 41 in 1826, perhaps when he started chair-making, in 1807 he was a carpenter (as shown on a bastardy order).