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Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« on: Friday 31 August 12 16:38 BST (UK) »
Can anybody out there help me trace this lady?

She was the birth mother of my father-in-law's Dad, Basil Alwyn, who was adopted by the Randall family.
I'm very curious to find out more about her, even though by law we have no link to her any more.

All I have to go on is Basil's birth cert - born 12th Feb 1926 to Gertrude Miriam Bilton, chambermaid at 'The Horns' Hotel, Braintree, Essex. Legend has it that Basil's father was Gertrude's employer, but this is hearsay, and naturally no father's name is given.
I have no idea how old she was when Basil was born, or where she was originally from, but Basil was born at 700 Hucknall Road, Nottingham....which I have discovered was a workhouse at the time of Basil's birth - presumably Gertrude ended up living there when she found herself 'with child' - so I would expect her to be young, and clearly unmarried.

Can ANYONE shed any light on her?  ??? ???
Renshaw: Nottinghamshire
Popple: Leicestershire
Woodcock: Notts/Lincs
Millership: Warwickshire to Notts
Smith: Lincs to Leics/Notts (Lementina c1821 - possible gypsy family, married Jonathan Popple)
Wood: Derbyshire to Notts
Lewin: Leicestershire
Lamin: Notts
Jarvis: Derbyshire to Notts
Walker: Eakring (Notts)
Randall: Notts
Wardle: Shropshire/Staffordshire
Comery: Notts
Bilton: Basil Alwyn, b.1926, mother Gertrude. Adopted at birth by Randall family, Notts.

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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 August 12 16:55 BST (UK) »
She probably only went into the Workhouse Infirmary to have the child, not to live there. The infirmary, originally known as Bagthorpe Infirmary, was called City Infirmary from 1930-37, then City Hospital.
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Nottingham/
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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 August 12 17:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Stan.

All I have to go on is the cert, which says her residence at the time was 700 Hucknall Road.....
If you're right and she went there just to have him, was she likely to have been from the Notts area originally? It seems a hell of a trek to come from Essex to Nottingham just to have a baby...though I guess if she was trying to keep it hidden from her family.....?

I wish I could track her down.
Renshaw: Nottinghamshire
Popple: Leicestershire
Woodcock: Notts/Lincs
Millership: Warwickshire to Notts
Smith: Lincs to Leics/Notts (Lementina c1821 - possible gypsy family, married Jonathan Popple)
Wood: Derbyshire to Notts
Lewin: Leicestershire
Lamin: Notts
Jarvis: Derbyshire to Notts
Walker: Eakring (Notts)
Randall: Notts
Wardle: Shropshire/Staffordshire
Comery: Notts
Bilton: Basil Alwyn, b.1926, mother Gertrude. Adopted at birth by Randall family, Notts.

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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 August 12 17:01 BST (UK) »
hi, basil a bilton mothers name bilton born nottingham derbyshire  1st q 1926
vol 7b,page 747

gertrude miriam tennant died 1982 nottingham  born edinburgh 1899 do you think these could be the correct people?


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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 August 12 17:06 BST (UK) »
there is a marriage for a gertrude miriam bilton to a samuel j tennant 4th q 1927 nottingham  vol 7b page 937

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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 August 12 21:50 BST (UK) »
YES YES YES!!!
What have you found on 1901??

All I've seen on the FREE index list is a Gertrude M Bilton age 16, dressmaker, in Islington. Other possible Gertrudes, but only one with M initial...though I've learned from experience that initials (or lack of) can mean nothing!!
Renshaw: Nottinghamshire
Popple: Leicestershire
Woodcock: Notts/Lincs
Millership: Warwickshire to Notts
Smith: Lincs to Leics/Notts (Lementina c1821 - possible gypsy family, married Jonathan Popple)
Wood: Derbyshire to Notts
Lewin: Leicestershire
Lamin: Notts
Jarvis: Derbyshire to Notts
Walker: Eakring (Notts)
Randall: Notts
Wardle: Shropshire/Staffordshire
Comery: Notts
Bilton: Basil Alwyn, b.1926, mother Gertrude. Adopted at birth by Randall family, Notts.

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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 August 12 22:10 BST (UK) »
Hello

I don't think the islington is the right one......this makes more sense..

Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County:    Midlothian
Address:    4 Brougham St
Ella B Bilton             25  Master mariners wife  b England
Charles V Bilton    4   son b Edinburgh
Gertrude M Bilton    2   dau b Edinburgh
Nora D Bilton    5 Mo      dau b Edinburgh



Ella B Bilton died Basford Nottingham 1962
Charles V Bilton died Nottingham 1967   m Langton in 1925
Nora D Bilton m (1) Carlin 1925 Nottingham
                         (2) Worsop 1945 Nottingham
                     died 1979 Nottingham

I'm sure you can see a theme here ............

more to follow



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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 August 12 22:27 BST (UK) »
Intriguing!

I thought it would be the Islington one due to her working down in Essex before having Basil - I was just confused as to why she'd come up to Nottingham.
Now I'm confused as to why she'd go down to Essex to work lol!

In fact, where did you find this 1901 record for her?? The list I've seen has only 6 Gertrude Biltons, and none were born in Edinburgh - that's on 1901censusonline.com

I wait with baited breath for your next message!!
Renshaw: Nottinghamshire
Popple: Leicestershire
Woodcock: Notts/Lincs
Millership: Warwickshire to Notts
Smith: Lincs to Leics/Notts (Lementina c1821 - possible gypsy family, married Jonathan Popple)
Wood: Derbyshire to Notts
Lewin: Leicestershire
Lamin: Notts
Jarvis: Derbyshire to Notts
Walker: Eakring (Notts)
Randall: Notts
Wardle: Shropshire/Staffordshire
Comery: Notts
Bilton: Basil Alwyn, b.1926, mother Gertrude. Adopted at birth by Randall family, Notts.

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Re: Gertrude Miriam Bilton
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 August 12 22:34 BST (UK) »
there is a tree online showing another child born 1922 ....Bernard Valentine Bilton ?? 

Miriam had further siblings ....

Valentine D born 1903 Grangemouth
Elsie S born 1905 Grangemouth
Phyllis Maud born 1907 Grangemouth

the parents were Ella B Ballan and Charles Bilton who were married in Edinburgh in 1899 according to the tree I have found...Charles Bilton snr died in 1908.....if you are looking for Ella in 1911 have a look in the Sunderland area; her two older children are in Essex at the Royal Merchants Seamens Orphange Wanstead ...if you google it it will come up with a rootschat thread showing how to get further information about the children. I think that is where there is an Essex connection , 

According to the tree Miriam had no further children but there are children from her siblings ........I suspect you are lokking at living relatives here

Charles was living at 302 Hucknall Road when he joined the army i 1916....

I'll see if I can find any records for her parents now.

nesta