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Castletown
« on: Thursday 30 August 12 09:13 BST (UK) »
Have a birth certificate with the registration district of Castletown. The father's address is given as Oak Mount. Would this have been a street address in Castletown, or somewhere within the registration district.  Moya

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Re: Castletown
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 30 August 12 09:57 BST (UK) »
I dont see a street in the town of that name, or a townland named Oak Mount or similar in the district - so suspect that Oak Mount might be the name of a house or estate.

What date is this cert - also what is the father's occupation ?


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Re: Castletown
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 September 12 01:26 BST (UK) »
The certificate was dated 29th September 1866.  Father's occupation Labourer. This child when she grew up, married in 1897, her address at that time was Kilbrittain, her father a farmer. Family lore has it that two of the children lived for 12 years at Kilbrittain Castle owned by a friend Jonas Alcock-Stawell. I am wondering if the father was a tenant farmer and lived on the estate. Can't see why only 2 children out of 9 would live in the castle. Also mentioned is the name Hollybrook farm that ran hunters and hounds, and that the female children of the family were educated at private schools. Cannot reconcile this with the father being a labourer.  Moya

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Re: Castletown
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 September 12 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

There is an Oak Mount Estate in Cork on the attached

oak mount estate cork

Did you wish to post names and dates as it's very hard to help otherwise !

Tara


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Re: Castletown
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 September 12 01:48 BST (UK) »
Hello Tara.  Looks like Oak Mount might be the right one. The family I am tracing are William and Lucy Roberts. William came from Lissangle Caheragh where his father Alexander farmed 34 acres. Lucy came from Dromcona? Caheragh. Her father was a labourer. One of their daughters Deborah, born 1861 married in Wales, 1884, father described as a caretaker. On census records for Deborah, her birthplace is Skibbereen. Daughter Elisabeth born 1864 Skibbereen.  Daughter Lucy born 1866, address Oak Mount, district of Castletown. Lucy's address on her marriage cert in 1897 gives her address as Kilbrittain, and her father as a farmer. Another daughter Kate born 1869 also Castletown, but as I don't have a birth cert for this, do not know address. She is with her sister Elisabeth in London, on the 1901 census and gives birthplace as Skibbereen, not Castletown. Just as a matter of interest, if the father William was deceased at the time of Lucy's marriage in 1897, would it say so. The reason I ask is that I can only find a death for William Roberts in 1890, and I know that her mother Lucy was a widow on the 1901 Irish census. I will quote you a passage from some handwritten notes from one of the great-grandsons ......"Lucy Roberts was born on a farm called Hollybrook, near Skibbereen, she and her older sister Mary lived for 12 years at Kilbrittain Castle owned by Jonas Alcock-Stole, a friend.   Mary was born on Valentia Island near Caherciveen, she was secretary to Knights of Kerry. Hollybrook farm ran hunters and hounds, one sister Kate was good horsewoman and won gold bracelet.  All the sisters were educated in private schools. There were 3 sons, two who died young were Waterloo soldiers and another Jack who ran away to sea as his father was so strict, I believe he settled in New Zealand"  ........  I think we can discount the Waterloo reference as that was way before they were born. The writer also makes reference to a cousin Ben Roberts being a politician in the early NZ Parliament, possibly a descendant of Jack Roberts.  The only sister who seems to have married "well" was Elisabeth, her husband was a well known physician and surgeon George Burford who set up homeopathic clinics. Moya

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Re: Castletown
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 September 12 07:21 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

There is an Oak Mount Estate in Cork on the attached

oak mount estate cork

Did you wish to post names and dates as it's very hard to help otherwise !

Tara

This is in Dunmanway Registration District. It is close to Castletown though. Why not get the cert for the sister and see what it says? I think I posted this before but there is no Dromcona in Caheragh - the closest is Dromcorragh.

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Re: Castletown
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 September 12 07:42 BST (UK) »
Oops sorry -  I had the wrong idea of where Castletown Registration District is. Not close to this Oak Mount in Dunmanway Registration District.

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Re: Castletown
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 02 September 12 08:01 BST (UK) »
There are a couple of records on IrishGenealogy with address listed as Oakmount in RC parish of Castletownbere. This is in Castletown Registration District. It's not listed as an official townland so maybe just local name for an area. It shows up in google listings as the address for a couple of businesses. I'll see if I can find out later where it is.

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Re: Castletown
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 September 12 08:43 BST (UK) »
Oakmount is shown on Google maps near townland of Eskenacartan on the western side of Castletownbere.