mallaire / russell please help

[dawnyj]

Ive now found a james spicer visiting his sister mrs fred mallaire at 33 elm street akron ohio!!!!

I have seen a later marriage for amelia?? Who names father as spicer. Apparently james born in london but lived in montreal, has a 14yr old daughter travelling with him.

[*Sandra*]

Hi Sandra:
I didn't see anything on the card stating foster sister.  Can you view the image, please, and see if you see anything?

Sorry didn't see anything on the actual record.

Nothing further on Florence Margaret Carruthers. Born 1898 England and aged 28 years. Rubber Worker for Goodyear. Father Robert Carruthers and Margaret E Wilson
Death Date: 20 Oct 1926 - St Joseph's Hospital. York. Ontario.
Found the marriages for Joseph Lancelot (Marriage to Gladys Evelyn Bunn)and Robert Harrison Carruthers ( Marriage to Annie Clara Evelyn Young) (These were 2 brothers of Florence) but found nothing to help.


Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Further investigation on James Spicer born 1891 (brother of Amelia) was the son of  Charles J Spicer - Birth 5 Oct 1861 in Radcliff, Middlesex, London, England
and died  6 Sep 1900 in Montréal, Quebec.
Amelia Jane Webb Birth 16 Feb 1869 in Mile End Old Town, Stepney, Middlesex, London, England and died 31 Oct 1946 in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
Amelia remaried to Edward Morgan in 1902 (Droiuns Collection)
source anc tree - cannot see an Amellia listed with them though. 
also a Russell family tree but that says Charles J Spicer married Jane A Rundle   

On the first tree - interesting the parents of Amelia Webb were recorded as Charles Webb and Harriet Smith.
Reply 8 shows them with Emma Webb/Waller - mother of the cousin staying with the Mallaires on the 1930 census.

Sandra

[dawnyj]

Thats brilliant research thankyou. It still leaves me wondering how annie is connected to them.  Theres just no documentary evidence that i can see at!

[cactusbloom16]

I just signed up with this and am not sure about all the people mentioned, but my great grandmother was named Amelia Harriet Spicer. She was born in Canada but her parents came from England.  Her older brother was born on the ship while they were crossing over.  She married my great grandfather, Frederick Randolph Mallaire in Canada and then they moved to Ohio.

[dawnyj]

This quest is still ongoing. If anyone can shed any light I would greatly appreciate it.
In brief
Annie Russell is born Bilston England to Fred and Harriet Russell. They emmigrate to Canada on the Corsican in September 1911
I cant find Annie Russell again other than her Brother John on 20th Sep 1920 states on a US Border document that he is going to visit his sister Annie Mollaire or Mallaire? at 1314 Grant Avenue kenmore Ohio.  (I know he is definitely the right John because the address he gives in Montreal is the correct address for his father Fred.)

The difficult thing is that there are Millaires living at that address on the American census.

The woman is named Amelia, on other documents her parents surnames are Spicer and Webb, she was born in Canada her parents were English?

I am assuming that possibly Annie has died? or left (possibly with John?) and cant trace them again???  Unless Amelia is Annie and has completely changed her name and for some reason lied about her family and origins this makes no sense .... What became of Annie??  Any advice appreciated!!!!





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I am researching a branch of my family that emmigrated to Canada.  The family originated in Bilston  Staffordshire.

Some of the family moved on from Montreal and went to Toronto some went to Hamilton.

Here comes my strange puzzle....

One of the children John Russell goes to visit his sister Mrs Annie Mallaire(nee Russell) in November 1920 at 1314 Grant Avenue, Kenmore Akron Ohio.  The street directories have a Fred Mallaire there with his wife Amelia.  Amelia was born around about the same time as Annie. I was convinced that Amelia was really Annie as She lists both her parents as being in English.  However a number of years later Amelia remarries and names her mother as Harriet Webb,
My Annies Mum was called Harriet but her surname was not Webb, it was Evans.

I cannot find any records for a marriage of Annie Russell to a Mr Mallaire, Birth Records in Bilston for her as Annie or anything pertaining to her after her name appears on the passenger listing when she arrives in Montreal as Annie Russell, or her brother Freds marriage where she is a witness in 1917 then finally the border crossing of her brother John who visits her and names her as his sister Mrs Annie Mallaire of 1314 Grant Ave.

Stuck isnt the word. What became of Annie Mallaire ??
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[dawnyj]

I just signed up with this and am not sure about all the people mentioned, but my great grandmother was named Amelia Harriet Spicer. She was born in Canada but her parents came from England.  Her older brother was born on the ship while they were crossing over.  She married my great grandfather, Frederick Randolph Mallaire in Canada and then they moved to Ohio.

So sorry I have only just seen this.   Please can you contact me!!! Ive tried to message you but your inbox is full. I wondered if it was possible if Frederick Randoph maybe had a brother and they all lived in Grant street until Annie and husband moved away or maybe Annie married him first and then dies and he remarries? The surname is unusual too and there isnt a lot to go on either?? Its strange how my cousin John went to visit his sister at that address but she isnt listed on the census?? I

I hope that you can provide me with some insight into this

Dawn!!!!

[dbree]

Hi,

There is a marriage in Montreal 18 Feb. 1914 at Ste. Stephens Anglican Church

John Albert Woodward, tool setter, bachelor of Montreal, son of William Henry Woodward and Clara
Caddock and Nellie Russell, spinster daughter of Frederick Isaac Russell and Harriet Evans. She
signs as Nellie Russell. Witnesses Ethel Maud Ward, John Henry Tupper and Fred Russell.

There is a Canadian Passenger list in June 1921 on the ship Metagama,
Woodward, John Albert, age 34
Woodward, Nellie, age 28
Woodward, Nellie, age 5
Woodward, Lillian Patricia, age 2
Woodward, Leslie, age 8 wks.]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X9VY-R?i=24&cc=1823240&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A2HGJ-GMP

With the 1921 passenger there is the Form 30A, each passenger has a sheet. On both
John Albert's and Nellie's sheets, they list F. Russell as father/father in law, 913 Albert St.
Montreal. Both of them born Bilston, England. The 30A Form is viewable through Ancestry
and Library and Archives Canada. For the moment Library and Archives Canada website is down.

DB

[dawnyj]

Hi,

There is a marriage in Montreal 18 Feb. 1914 at Ste. Stephens Anglican Church

John Albert Woodward, tool setter, bachelor of Montreal, son of William Henry Woodward and Clara
Caddock and Nellie Russell, spinster daughter of Frederick Isaac Russell and Harriet Evans. She
signs as Nellie Russell. Witnesses Ethel Maud Ward, John Henry Tupper and Fred Russell.

There is a Canadian Passenger list in June 1921 on the ship Metagama,
Woodward, John Albert, age 34
Woodward, Nellie, age 28
Woodward, Nellie, age 5
Woodward, Lillian Patricia, age 2
Woodward, Leslie, age 8 wks.]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-X9VY-R?i=24&cc=1823240&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A2HGJ-GMP

With the 1921 passenger there is the Form 30A, each passenger has a sheet. On both
John Albert's and Nellie's sheets, they list F. Russell as father/father in law, 913 Albert St.
Montreal. The 30A Form is viewable through Ancestry and Library and Archives Canada.
For the moment Library and Archives Canada website is down.

DB

thankyou for looking!  I do have this information, Nellie was Annies sister so you have the correct family

Not sure if you have ancestry but this is a link to her brother Johns border pass https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1075/images/M1480_117-4535?pId=4895421


many thanks again
Dawn