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Re: ROBERTS / GRIFFITHS marriage circa 1860's 1870's
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 16:09 BST (UK) »
Mary's birth certificate should show Elizabeth's maiden name

This looks like her birth reg
Mary Roberts
Mar qtr 1871
Aston
6d 277

they were living in Aston reg district at the time of 1871 census

1871
Duddleton on Nicholls Warwicks (Aston reg dist)
Charles Roberts Head M 26 R Porter b. Wrexham Denby(should be Denbigh -transcribed as Derbys)
Elizabeth wife 29 Landlidon? Denby(Denbigh -transcribed derbys)
Mary daughter 1month Birmingham Warwicks
Samuel brother U 16 Wrexham Denby(should be Denbigh -transcribed as Derbys)
RG10 3142 37 23

as Elizabeth was 29 years of age with her 1st child being 1month old -have you discounted the possibility of Elizabeth having been married previously??

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: ROBERTS / GRIFFITHS marriage circa 1860's 1870's
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 16:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks Suz,

I haven't looked at poss previous marriages yet. It is possible, but I would presume she would get remarried under her maiden name.

Many thanks

Kerry
FRATER, BIGGS, CARPENTER, GALLOWAY, LEWIS, BRADLEY, CALDICOTT

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Re: ROBERTS / GRIFFITHS marriage circa 1860's 1870's
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 16:36 BST (UK) »
If widowed usually a remarriage would be in married name - but a birth reg from a child of 2nd marriage would give mother's maiden name (may sometimes give name from previous marriage as well)

so if Elizabeth Griffiths married "Joe Bloggs" and he died she would remarry as Elizabeth bloggs

Suz
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Re: ROBERTS / GRIFFITHS marriage circa 1860's 1870's
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 August 12 08:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the reminder Suz.

Can't find a previous marriage at the moment. But I will keep trying.

If I find the marriage then I'll get the father's name which hopefully will then I will start being able to put the correct jigsaw pieces into place.

Kerry
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Re: ROBERTS / GRIFFITHS marriage circa 1860's 1870's
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 August 12 08:27 BST (UK) »
All things being equal,this is the only Elizabeth Griffiths born in Llanelidan I can find.She is living in what is given then as Trefor Uchaf Merionethshire with parents John and Jane in 1851.
HO107/2509/434/11.

Regards
William Russell Jones.

I appreciate the reference. I suspect this is how the other researcher presumed the parentage of Elizabeth. I will have to check the deaths to see if the other Elizabeth (I did find two) died between 1840 and 1851. I know the the BMD indexes don't give the age at this point so it will be some slow digging for me.

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Kerry
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