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Tips to find people on Census .
« on: Monday 27 August 12 02:24 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any good tips for finding people on Census I have whole families that disappear I can only think that they are mistranscribed. I have some I have found the name is Burke but are transcribed as Brake , Birk and Burch. Take Care Lynette
Peter Burke father Dominick Burke wife Bridget Bagley son James Burke wife Lucy Dyke County Mayo Coventry England Australia . Grant ,Snell,Diggins , Burton, James Frederick Elmore /Elmer , Alfred James Bailey , Julia Elmore , Pierson

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Re: Tips to find people on Census .
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 August 12 10:33 BST (UK) »
Illiteracy was rife in the 1800's, so many people couldn't fill in the census returns for themselves, and they relied on others to do it for them.  Often those filling in the forms were not closely linked with the family, so they will have written down what they heard.  It's probably not mis-transcription, but more a case of mis-communication.  Try thinking about ways that the name could have been heard..... Bird, Burr, Burt, Bert..... any more suggestions, Roots Chatters ?  :)
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Re: Tips to find people on Census .
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 August 12 11:31 BST (UK) »
Hello Lynette

Put in Christian name,age,where born etc & leave out surname.

Sometimes helps

omega :)
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Tips to find people on Census .
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 August 12 11:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks Nick and Omega take Care Lynette
Peter Burke father Dominick Burke wife Bridget Bagley son James Burke wife Lucy Dyke County Mayo Coventry England Australia . Grant ,Snell,Diggins , Burton, James Frederick Elmore /Elmer , Alfred James Bailey , Julia Elmore , Pierson


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 August 12 11:57 BST (UK) »
I often use first names without surnames. Also a good one to use the most unusual name in the family.

I have also searched whole villages or areas of larger town.

My Baker-Potters were very hard to find until I realized they never moved very far. I just had to troll through about 20 pages of census summaries and there they were living the happy and quiet life they always had.

Good luck!
Gadsby's, Farmers, Neals - Leicestershire
Freemans, Littles, Corbetts, Branns - Australia

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Re: Tips to find people on Census .
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 August 12 12:20 BST (UK) »
Yes Tedscout I have Baileys and Elmore's / Elmer's that all stayed in West Winch and  everyone  had atleast one John sometimes two if the first one died. Take Care Lynette
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 August 12 12:25 BST (UK) »
what about Berk or Berc or Beck?
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Coram Allen Jayne  Dev/Som/Gloucestershire
Chambers Brecs/Rads//Hereford/Merthyr/Ebbw Vale
Jones/ Prosser/Probert/ Clyro,Rads
Price/Farr/Chambers Glasbury Brecs
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Re: Tips to find people on Census .
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 August 12 15:20 BST (UK) »
I find that the things most likely to be mistranscribed, either by the enumerator or when it was put in the database, are the surname and the age. Ages of children, though, are likely to be more accurate than those of adults.

First names tend to be well transcribed, though middle names are often missing altogether.

Even when a person was trying to hide, they rarely lied about their place of birth, so that's a good thing to search on even though unusual places of birth may have caused problems. Don't forget that wildcards can help here. Families who moved around, though, often forgot which children were born where.

Both Ancestry and FindMyPast allow you to look for other people in the household, so mentioning someone you expect to be living in the same house increases your chances.

The surname variants in my one-name study are very prone to mistranscription, even when the person concerned was literate, so I use every option I can to locate someone missing from a census.

Assuming someone is on their own, and having failed with the full name and age +/- 5 years, I start by removing the date of birth. Then mess with the place of birth - use just the county if the township gives nothing.

Use wildcards to help. Ancestry has more options than FindMyPast here. I can use formats like D??BA*, where FindMyPast just allows an asterisk at the right hand end.

When someone has been consistent with a place of birth in other censuses, try just the first name and the township. You may end up scanning through 20 pages of results, but usually you can spot a likely mistranscription.

There will always be cases which we are unable to find for some reason. If someone was just a lodger, they may not even have been asked the proper spelling of their name, or where they came from.

On more than one occasion I have seen the place of birth dittoed all the way down the sheet, and the the enumerator has realised that one person part way down was actually born in foreign parts, so changed just that one line. When the transcription was done, we end up (correctly) with results he never expected. Great great uncle Henry's whole family is down as being born in China rather than Wigan. :)
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Tips to find people on Census .
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 August 12 16:00 BST (UK) »
If they haven't moved very far on previous census records, try looking for neighbours.  Sometimes even the local inn-keeper can lead you to the people you want.

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Stoneham - Kent / Essex / Herts / Bucks / Devon
Pike - Kent
Pay - Kent
Swan/Swaine - Herts / London
Bissenden - Kent
Chappell - Herts
Hammond - Essex