James Thomas Leslie c1812 (Records before 1812)

[JD Leslie]

Is it possible to find Dublin records before 1812? I have been told it is impossible. I am searching for records of Thomas Leslie of 5 Capel Street Merchant Quay Dublin. I am a descendant of his - through James Leslie his son,  - born in 1812. Can anyone help? Thanks.

[Billyblue]

Hello JD and welcome to RootsChat

Almost impossible, but not totally, would be my opinion.
Anything Irish is notoriously difficult, and pre1812 you would be reliant on parish records.

Or maybe a directory though I don't know if there were any, that early, for Dublin.
Earliest I know of is 1850.

Newspapers - if you think he may have done something newsworthy, you could try the Freeman's Journal here: https://sites.google.com/site/onlinenewspapersite/Home/irl

Hopefully someone else will happen along and give more clues.

Dawn M

[JD Leslie]

Thanks for the reply.  A poster said that some early Dublin parish records survived.  My ancestor is Thomas James Leslie of 5 Capel Street,  Merchant's  Quay who died after 1837. It is believed he lived in St Audeon's Parish and there maybe surviving records. His son, James Thomas Leslie is my ancestor who was sent to Australia (Tasmania) as a Remittance Man in 1830 due to political activities. If anyone can shed any more light on these people, I would be grateful. Thanks

[shanew147]

lots of parish records for Dublin City are available on www.irishgenealogy.ie

I had a quick look for your James but the only one listed around that date that I see is one in Tarbert (Co. Kerry)

What was the occupation of Thomas ?

Early directories that cover traders and principle residents in the city include Pigott's 1822 & 4, Pettigrew and Oulton 1834 to 1845, and the Treble Almanac (Watson's/English Registry/Wilsons ) going back to the the early 1700s

see : Introduction to Irish Records

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I am searching for records of Thomas Leslie of 5 Capel Street Merchant Quay Dublin.
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a quick observation about the locations you mentioned - Capel Street and Merchants Quay, are quite close but two separate locations. Capel Street is north of the Liffey, and Merchants Quay on the south.


Shane

[shanew147]

There are some records on IrishGenealogy for the surname Leslie with Capel St. as the address - all Church of Ireland death/burial records, several for children, in the parish of St. Mary's - see : Leslie, Capel Street

St. Mary's Church of Ireland parish covered part of the north city centre - including Mary St, Capel St., Upr and Middle Abbey Street, parts of Sackville St. St. Audoen's Church of Ireland parish covers part of the south city - including part of Merchant's quay, Usher's Quay, Cook Street, Bridge St. Upr & Lwr, and part of High St.


Shane

[JD Leslie]

Thank you Shane for your response. Thomas James Leslie was a merchant - a dyer, I have been told. He was the father of James Leslie (born in 1812) but James's mother was not recorded it appears. What would be the reason for that? Do you know?

[shanew147]

Thank you Shane for your response. Thomas James Leslie was a merchant - a dyer, I have been told. He was the father of James Leslie (born in 1812) but James's mother was not recorded it appears. What would be the reason for that? Do you know?

That James Leslie baptism I mentioned is in Co. Kerry - over 250km from Dublin, so would seem to be very unlikely to be 'your' James.

The mother's name may have been recorded, but the register is very faded and difficult to read for those dates.



S.

[shanew147]

from the earliest directory I've found with street listings ... Pettigrew & Oulton 1834 :

  5 Capel Street
   William Carroll & Co., Wholesale & Retail Druggists



S.

[shanew147]

there is a Thomas Leslie in the Alphabetical Index of that directory sharing no 15 Capel St :

  Thomas Leslie, hosiery and shoe warehouse
  Ralph Scott esq., attorney

He's the only Thomas Leslie included in the index.


Shane