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What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« on: Sunday 19 August 12 17:21 BST (UK) »


Does this say 150 lbs of shoes? You'll see that worsted stuff has the same unit of measurement.

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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 August 12 17:39 BST (UK) »
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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 August 12 17:54 BST (UK) »
Hi bristolloggerheads

I was wondering if the worsted stuff was wrapped in something that was referred to as a 'shoe'?   It may be an old term used by cloth weavers.

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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 August 12 19:44 BST (UK) »

It looks like ℓds  — I wonder if it means loads.

From A Dictionary of Units of Measurement:

"In Britain prior to modern times, a load was sometimes a standardized unit, but it varied with the commodity being carried. A typical size was 40 bushels (roughly 1.4 cubic meters)."

http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/

But then again, there would be an awful lot of shoes in 210m3 !!   :-\
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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 August 12 20:42 BST (UK) »
It is an official customs record so I would expect it to be a defined measure - it does look like "ld" though.
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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 August 12 00:35 BST (UK) »
Is 'lbs' an option?

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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 August 12 08:18 BST (UK) »
Are you sure it's a measurement, and not a check-mark?

E.G. somebody's initials, after checking the quantities?
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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 August 12 08:33 BST (UK) »
Difficult to say without more context, but loads seems the most likely.

I believe a "load" would be the amount that could be carried on a cart pulled by a horse: usually about a ton for heavy goods, but lighter items would be limited by volume (40 bushels of grain weighs roughly 1 ton)

If this is a Customs record it probably refers to ships' cargoes so 210 m3 would not be unreasonable.

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Re: What is this unit of measurement from 1728?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 August 12 09:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

Any chance it might just be an archaic way of writing yards?!!!

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