BBC TV "WDYTYA?" Series 10 Episode #1: Samantha Womack

[Parmesan]

You can tell she's an actress.         The family history is interesting but Ms Womack is annoying!

[paulalou]

I know what you mean about her.

Am I the only one who is wondering why her great grandparents marriage wasn't looked up? I've found a marriage for an Alexander Cunningham Ryan in 1908 in Plymouth. One of the possible spouses is a Beatrice. Is that just a coincience do you think? Why haven't they mentioned the marriage? If it is the same ACR the Beatrice they're talking about would only have been 14 at the time of the marriage. In the 1911 census ACR is noted as being a musician, born in Glasgow and married for 3 years, although no sign of a wife.

And if Beatrice was taken to America, how did she and ACR meet?

ETA: Have just looked at ACR's military records online and his wife in 1914 was Beatrice Winifred Ryan (nee Pickford). So did he marry again, and to another Beatrice? I can only assume SW's grandmother gave her more information than we saw on the program.

[Parmesan]

Quite.  I found a few incoming passenger lists too which suggests Jessie came over a few times, presumably keeping in touch with Beatrice.

[candleflame]

Was it just me or did Sam have difficulty reading even the simplest entries on the certificates. I know we are more used to the format of them, but I felt she made a real 'what does that say' over the most straightforward of things. Interesting programme though.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

they did describe Beatrice as ACR's partner at one point, so maybe they didn't marry

[paulalou]

they did describe Beatrice as ACR's partner at one point, so maybe they didn't marry

Ah ok, I must have missed that bit. Maybe they didn't want to dwell on SW's grandmother being illegitimate.

[ainslie]

The record sheet at the Scots Guards HQ seemed to show the shooting incident was in Feb 1914 - pre war - surely an error in their documents, unless it was accidental and not caused by war?

[Parmesan]

Was it just me or did Sam have difficulty reading even the simplest entries on the certificates. I know we are more used to the format of them, but I felt she made a real 'what does that say' over the most straightforward of things. Interesting programme though.

that's what was irritating me.  I was shouting at the telly 

At one point when the older woman was showing her marriage and birth certificates it was like a teacher helping a 5 year old to read "Sh - af -te ...."  Does it say Shaftesbury? 

Yes, love, have a lollipop 

[nestagj]

Looks like I wasn't the only one thinking this

Beatrice (Finkle) Garraud was in New Jersey in the 1910 census with her mother aged 14 so its quite clear that she didn't marry in 1908 ....I wonder if there are any children from this marriage to Beatrice Pickford ....looking for her in 1911.
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