Theodore R. Dietzman - Indiana and Florida

[*Sandra*]

Lela and Bessie were the 2 surviving sister. Mabel Dietman/Ryckman and husband Stanley were living in Calumet, Lake, Indiana in 1940 but had no children. Mabel predeceased Teddy.

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

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Bessie Bell Dletzmann Budrow - Birth:  Aug. 5, 1888 and died April 18, 1981

Burial:
Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Hollywood Hills) Los Angeles Los Angeles County California.
Plot: Eternal Love, Map E23, Lot 4245, Space 4

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0pyt/

and husband Guy Harry Budrow - Birth:  Jan. 27, 1886 and died February 6 th1967

 
Burial: Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Hollywood Hills)  Los Angeles Los Angeles County
California, USA
Plot: Eternal Love, Map E23, Lot 4245, Space 3

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0pyu/




Sandra

 

[Runnicus]

My Dietzman family are Illinois-based. 

Thomas, father b.1859, Laura, mother, b.1870, Mabel M. b.1898, Arthur D. b. 1901, Darwin, b. 1091, Lela M. b.1902, Theodore R. b.1905, Frank L. b.1908 and Guy(?) b.1911.

Theodore married Anabel Hiles and lived in East Chicago, Lake County, Indiana.  They moved to Florida circa 1945.  Ted died in 1973 and was survived by Anabel and two Dietzman sisters - Mabel and Lela.

 

[*Sandra*]

Yes, I guessed they were Illinois based from looking at the census records for a few hours.
Are you saying this is the wrong family  All the names seem to match 


Have you looked at the family on all the census  Were there not more children than you mention  The father Thomas J Dietman may also have been married twice 

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Thomas Dietzman and Belle (Laura) in 1900 Marion, Ogle, Illinois

Thomas J Dietzman 39  Belle Dietzman 31
Jessie L Dietzman 13  Bessie B Dietzman 11
Fred F Dietzman 9  William H Dietzman 6
Charles E Dietzman 5  Mable M Dietzman 2
Arthur D Dietzman 1 month
Ornaldo White 55

Birth of Belle Dietman (omitted from your list)

Bessie Belle Deitzman  - Birth Date: 5 Aug 1888 - Berlin, Steele, Minnesota
Father's Name: Thomas J. Deitzman  and Mother Laura B Deitzman


Thomas Dietman and Belle (Laura) in 1910 Oregon Ward 1, Ogle, Illinois.

Thomas Dietzman 51  Laura Dietzman 40
Mabel M Dietzman 12  Arthur D Dietzman 9
Lela M Dietzman 7 Theodore R Dietzman 5
Frank L Dietzman 2

Thomas Dietzmann  - Birth Date: 9 Aug 1858 -  Illinois
Death Date: 29 Apr 1916 - Oregon, Oregon Township, Ogle, Illinois - Aged 57 years. General Labourer. Married
Buried 2 May 1916  Oregon
Gender: Male
Father Name: Trouket Dietzmann born Germany and Mother Roselplia Clarke born Wisconsin
 

In 1920 Thomas Dietzman has died (as shown above) and Laura (widowed) is living with F Lyle Dietzman (thats Frank Lyle) in Dawson, Kidder, North Dakota. Darwin is Arthur Darwin.

Laura B Dietzman 50 (Widowed)
Darwin A Dietzman 19  Lela M Dietzman 17
Theodore R Dietzman 15  F Lyle Dietzman 12  J Guy Dietzman 9  (thats John Guy Dietzman)

East Chicago, Lake, Indiana in 1930 (John Guy goes under Guy and is living with Laura)

Laura Dietzman 60
Mabel Dietzman 31  Theodore Dietzman 26  Guy Dietzman 19

John Guy Dietzman  - Birth Date: 5 Oct 1910 - Oregon, Illinois. Aged 22 years. Single. Occupation:- Electrician.
Died 20 May 1933  KeKalb, Illinois
Burial Date: 22 May 1933  DeKalb, Ill  - Cemetery  Fairview
Street Address: 112 1\2 N 4th St - DeKalb, Ill
Father Name: Thomas J. Dietzman - Buffalo, N Y
Mother  Luva B. Edrington - Galesberg, Illinois

Laura Dietzman - [Laura Irington]   Birth Date: 25 May 1869 - Galesburg, Illinois - Aged 71 years. Widowed.
Death Date: 30 Jan 1941  DeKalb, DeKalb, Illinois
Burial Date: 1 Feb 1941  DeKalb, DeKalb, Illinois
Father Name: George E. Irington  Elaton, Kentucky
and Mother: Elizabeth Piper - Ohio
Spouse Name: T. Dietzman

In 1940 Laura is living with Guy and Bessie Budrow DeKalb, DeKalb, Illinois and described as Mother-In-Law.

Guy H Budrow 54  and Bessie B Budrow 51
Laura B Dietzman 70





Sandra

[Runnicus]

Hello Sandra,

Ho Ho Ho - I hadn't found them in the 1900.  You're quite right of course. Two wives and eleven children, eh?  Fairly normal for the time I suppose. 
 
My interest is Theodore as you know who married Anabel Hiles tho I haven't found their marriage yet.  She was 10 years older than him.  In the 1930 census they live a few streets away from each other in East Chicago, Lake County and in 1904 he's living in her house (presumably married being good church people - according to the memorial when they died in Florida). 

Have you any idea how to go about tracking naturalisation papers?  It's Anabel's father I'm after - William Hiles (b.1866 Staffordshire,England) who was supposed to have been naturalised around 1890-1893.  He was my grandfather's uncle and I've got letters from Teddy and Anabel Dietzman written in 1940.  But I've got a bit sidetracked.

How are the Dietzmanns connected to your family tree?   Through Bessie Bell?

Thanks VERY much for all your help, All the best,  Ann

[*Sandra*]

Hi Ann,

No relation to your Dietzman family, just a willing researcher.

Can only see Annabel born 1888 Pennsylvania with Alfred and Kate, unfortunately cannot see one with a William.
Alfred Hiles appears to be the son of Frederick Hiles and Emma Price.  Alfred was born Abertillery, Monmouthshire, Wales. He did have a brother Willie/William born 1866 Rudgley, Staffordshire, England.

William Hiles  - Christening Date: 28 Apr 1867 - Rugeley, Staffordshire, England
Father's Name: Frederick Hiles and Mother Emma.


Annabel - 1900 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3M9-JV4
Annabel 1910 - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKP8-Y3G

Marriage of Alfred and Kate - St Louis 13 December 1882

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V2D6-X5F

Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Think you have it slightly muddled - There is a marriage of William Hiles. Born 1866 and aged 49 years to a Minnie Kaufmann aged 38 years. Married Chicago. Cook. Illinois 29 December 1915

and they are living in  Miami, Dade, Florida in 1930.

William Hiles 64 Born England. Parents born England. Immigrated 1892.
Winnie Hiles 54 Born Illinois.
Alphia Mcneil 33 Roomer.
Fred Button 42 Roomer.
Elvin Dickover 63 Roomer.

William in Center, Delaware, Indiana in 1900 - SINGLE

Thomas Cooksey 49
Mary Cooksey 43
William B Cooksey 12
William Hiles 33 Born England April 1867.  Parents born England, Boarder. Single. Immigrated 1890. NA. Rougher at steel mill.


Sandra

[*Sandra*]

Brickell Avenue Miami, Dade, Florida in 1940

William Hiles 74  and Mennie Hiles 63
Horuce J Horne 37 Lodger.
Elizabeth D Horne 37 Lodgers wife

Didn'ty see a 1945 entry for William and Minnie 

Sandra

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Alfred Hiles died in 1919 - Burial -  Oak Hill Cemetery  Hammond Lake County
Indiana.  Plot Sect 6

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0q4k/


Kate Hiles died in 1928 - Burial - Oak Hill Cemetery. Hammopnd. Lake County.
Indiana. Plot Sect 6

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=93172639

Sandra