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Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« on: Wednesday 08 August 12 17:35 BST (UK) »
I am researching the Barber family originally from Eyke but they moved around during the end of the 19th century. In particular I am looking for the birth of Ernest Edward Barber, who was also was known as Edward Barber whilst in the Suffolk regiment in 1901. I believe he was born in about 1882 but depending on different census he states his birth place as Holbrook or Martlesham. I believe his father is David Barber who was born in Eyke in 1855

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Re: Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 August 12 14:03 BST (UK) »
I looked at both Holbrook and Martlesham registers but struggled to find a baptism for Ernest.

Some baptisms at Martlesham with David as the father:

Walter 30 Dec 1866 s/o David and Mary Barber (labourer)
Arthur 31 July 1869
Elizabeth Mary 28 May 1871
Eliza Jane 29 July 1873
Emma Louise 7 May 1876
Robert Samuel 1 Feb 1879

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Re: Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 August 12 15:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks for looking  :)
I don't think this is the right familiy as I know his faher was married to a Maria until 1886.
Will just have to keep looking

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Re: Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 August 12 16:15 BST (UK) »
Could this be him?

Marriage 9 Jun 1906 Poplar - Christ Church
Ernest Edward BARBER (abode East Bergholt) to Mary Helener EDWARDS (abode 297 Manchester Road).

Grooms father: George BARBER (occ Hurdlemaker)
Brides father: James William Edwards (Dec'd)
In the presence of James Gilbert & Alice Gilbert

1891C
Ernest BARBER c1882 states born Martlesham living with parents George & Mary Ann BARBER in Holbrook, Suffolk with quite a few siblings.
RG12/1465/125/17

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Re: Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 August 12 16:19 BST (UK) »
Things are not adding up here I'm afraid.

1. There is no Ernest Edward Barber birth registered in Suffolk ca.1882
2. There is no trace either of a David Barber b. ca.1855 Eyke
3. No trace of a marriage between a David Barber and a Maria.

I've found the entry you refer to in 1901 census but no trace of him in 1891.

Why do think his name was Ernest Edward?   The only Ernest Barber bc.1882 is an Ernest David Barber born in Martlesham who was the son of a George (bc.1855 Eyke) and Mary Ann - family living in Holbrook in 1891.

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Re: Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 August 12 16:23 BST (UK) »
George BARBER married March Q 1888 Ipswich 4a/832

On the same page Mary Ann PENNELL

So looks like his father remarried after the death of Maria BARBER - buried 28 Jun 1886 age 29, Holbrook, All Saints.

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 August 12 16:42 BST (UK) »
Think you need to amend your opening post.   You state there that his father was named David??   

I can't find a marriage between George Barber and Maria - Maria shown 1881 to have been born circa 1857 Harleston, Norfolk.

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Re: Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 August 12 17:07 BST (UK) »
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George BARBER married Dec 1880 Wangford RD 4a/1613

On the same page Maria WILES

That leaves one small problem!  On the 1891C there is a son Frederick Barber born c1877 - does this mean George Barber married more than twice??

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Re: Barber birth holbrook or martlesham?look up please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 August 12 17:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the suggestions.
Yes I can see that I have given the wrong name for the father on my original post; I have the marriage certificate for Ernest which is where I had Ernest Edward as his name. Ernest died at the beginning of the 1st world war his number suggesting he had been in the suffolk regiment and was a reserve. His army records from WW1 only call him Ernest
George Barber did indeed marry again to Mary Ann Pennell and a further time to a Betha Hayward. His mother has to be Maria as he was born sometime after the 1881 census and later census suggest a birth date between 1881 and 1882.
I guess I need to order the certificate for Ernest David  ???