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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 11:56 BST (UK) »
Have you tried putting there names in on this 1911 search engine ?  Both should come up for you.

http://www.1911census.co.uk/

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 12:02 BST (UK) »
Hi

It was her wasn't it.  Would you have any idea why there are two different arrival dates 28th March and then the 20th March?

Thank you, the second one explains that she is joining her husband so he must have come out earlier.

I will have a look at the other things you sent, thanks again

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 12:13 BST (UK) »
A Canadian Passenger List had a Frank Lambert. Born 1897 and aged 16 years
 
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England to Halifax. Nova Scotia, arriving 9 June 1913 on the Mongolian.

This was a group of children c/o the Middlemore Home.

The Middlemore Home was in Birmingham  ???

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O26369

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 12:17 BST (UK) »
Hi

It was her wasn't it.  Would you have any idea why there are two different arrival dates 28th March and then the 20th March?

Thank you, the second one explains that she is joining her husband so he must have come out earlier.

I will have a look at the other things you sent, thanks again

Kind regards

The first page of the passenger list says departed Liverpool March 19/20 th
Arrived St johns 28 th March 1920

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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 12:40 BST (UK) »
Ronald's mother's maiden name is given as Harwood.His parents marriage could well be that of a Frank L Lambert and an Ethel Harwood which took place in the Aston District of Warwickshire in the Jan/Feb/Mar quarter of 1918,Volume 6d,Page 828.

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 13:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks William

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I have found the family *Sandra* in 1891, 1901 and 1911 now and things are all fitting together nicely.

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 August 12 17:29 BST (UK) »
Sandra said:
A Canadian Passenger List had a Frank Lambert. Born 1897 and aged 16 years
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England to Halifax. Nova Scotia, arriving 9 June 1913 on the Mongolian.
This was a group of children c/o the Middlemore Home.
The Middlemore Home was in Birmingham

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O26369


Everybody else may have figured this out, but it sounds like:

Frank went to Canada as a Home Child.
He was in England as a member of the Canadian military in WWI and married Ethel there.
He returned to Canada with the military, so doesn't show on passenger lists.
(edit re polarbear's post below -- oops, I just assumed he'd been looked for and not found!)
Ethel had son Ronald in England and then travelled to Canada to join Frank.

There are two Frank Lamberts in Home Child records:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/001015-100.01-e.php

Frank Lambert aged 19 arrived in 1911 (so he was born c1892), departing Glasgow 17 Jun 1911, "Domestics & Labourers", destination various locations
Frank Lambert aged 16 arrived in 1913 (so he was born c1897), departing Liverpool 27 May 1913, Middlemore Homes, destination Halifax

From the CEF papers, ours appears to be the younger one.


edit - it does show that not all Home Children lived lives of quiet desperation in Canada. Some chose to come back here after WWI, for example, and prospered (my mother's aunt's husband was another example of that).
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 09 August 12 01:37 BST (UK) »
A Pte Frank L Lambert returned to Canada after the war on the Regina 19 Sep 1919, landing at Halifax NS. His destination was Debec Junction NB, which appears to match the address on the CEF papers.

If your Frank turns out to be the one from the Middlemore home, his records may be available through Library and Archives Canada under Immigration and Citizenship, Home Children.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

You can also order Frank's full military record from the same place. Look under Military, then First World War, then Soldiers of same to find the Attestation papers. You will find instructions for ordering files there also. Price depends on the size of the file and may provide a fair bit of info.

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 August 12 12:10 BST (UK) »
Hi everyone

Many thanks for all the help you have been doing. 

Two of my own ancestors were Canadian Home Children and were sent from Barnardo's.  I tried obtaining their records but they wanted £100 each for them and that is way out of my price range.

My friend has his father's army records but thanks for letting me know, I also have one of my guys.

I am saving everything to send to him when I have put it all together nicely.

Many thanks again for all your help and taking the time to help me.

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