Confused: Gr. Grandmother maiden name either Wright or MacDougal/MacDougall

[lululisa]

Hi again.

In case you didn't notice ...

The 1916 census image posted on the other thread (edit - oops, posted this in the wrong thread) has a Maggie Morgan age 22 b. Scotland as a lodger in the next household to the Viponds. She has a year if immigration of 1913. She is listed as married but William isn't with her. Perhaps away working? I believe if he was in the CEF he would still be recorded in the household with an indication that he was in the services (there are other examples of this on the same page; there was a special column to record same).

PB

polarbear,

Thank you for pointing that out.

I know that Maggie and Lizzie came to Canada together, so the differing immigration dates are confusing. Not sure whaere to go from here. Any suggestions?

[polarbear]

Differing dates often turn up in the records so you may still find them together. If Lizzie is 23 in 1916, a 1907 voyage would mean she was only about 14 and that doesn't seem to make sense?

I think your best plan of action at the moment would be to order at least the Vipond marriage cert and see what it says. Do you know who Lizzie and Maggie's parents are, BTW?

PB

[lululisa]

Differing dates often turn up in the records so you may still find them together. If Lizzie is 23 in 1916, a 1907 voyage would mean she was only about 14 and that doesn't seem to make sense?

I think your best plan of action at the moment would be to order at least the Vipond marriage cert and see what it says. Do you know who Lizzie and Maggie's parents are, BTW?

PB

Polarbear,

No, I do not know who their parents are. I am going to order their marriage certificates tomorrow. I will let you know what I find out! I just wish that the information recorded on census records was accurate!!

[polarbear]

Unfortunately, immigration info on censuses does seem to be rather hit and miss in general.

Hopefully, the certs will have some good parental info that you can use to trace the girls in Scotland. It sure seems strange that they would both put Wright as names. Any births of children Maggie had w/b protected by privacy laws but it would certainly be interesting to know what she put as mmn for any she had.

When you are looking at passenger lists you might want to look for an Elizabeth and Margaret as well, assuming these w/b their full names. And variations on the spelling of McDougall, such as one l or MacD. I don't think Wright gets changed a lot so that spelling s/b OK.

PB

[lululisa]

Unfortunately, immigration info on censuses does seem to be rather hit and miss in general.

Hopefully, the certs will have some good parental info that you can use to trace the girls in Scotland. It sure seems strange that they would both put Wright as names. Any births of children Maggie had w/b protected by privacy laws but it would certainly be interesting to know what she put as mmn for any she had.

When you are looking at passenger lists you might want to look for an Elizabeth and Margaret as well, assuming these w/b their full names. And variations on the spelling of McDougall, such as one l or MacD. I don't think Wright gets changed a lot so that spelling s/b OK.

PB

Polarbear,

Thanks again for the hints/advice. I have been doing ancestral research for a while now, but Lizzie's family has always stumped me. I think part of why I haven't purchased the marriage certificate is because I'm afraid I will be disappointed once again. A little silly on my part, I know. No more procrastination!

[lululisa]

Here is a photo of Lizzie.

[polarbear]

What a lovely picture! Thank you for sharing it.

I might start with ordering only one of the certs and see what it says before ordering the 2nd. You may be lucky enough to get what you need from the one; if not, then you could opt for the other one.

I'll let you know if I can think of anything else.

PB

[lululisa]

What a lovely picture! Thank you for sharing it.

I might start with ordering only one of the certs and see what it says before ordering the 2nd. You may be lucky enough to get what you need from the one; if not, then you could opt for the other one.

I'll let you know if I can think of anything else.

PB

You are right, I'm sure only one certificate is required. Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. I will let you know what I find out.

Lisa

[valeriec]

You have a request for passenger information but I will post it on this thread to try and keep all the information together.

you can look for passenger lists at
www.ancestorsonboard.com

I did have a quick look but didn't find anything that would definitely be your Lizzie or Maggie.

http://automatedgenealogy.com
I went to this site to see if I could find either Lizzie or Maggie on the 1911 census to see if I could confirm their arrivial in 1907 and I couldn't find them in Manitoba. I also couldn't find the husband of Maggie under Soldiers of the First World War. I checked the attestation papers at Library and Archives Canada.

Ralph Vipond was previously married to a Bella Harrison and they had two children. The oldest child shows up on the 1916 census.

I also checked the Home Children site at LAC to see if it was possible that the two sisters arrived under that program but again no luck.