Stoke Damerel HARRIS

[horse000]

I should have mentioned that there were 2 possible Mary's for 1858, I was wondering if you knew which was the correct one.

Geoff

[suejim]

Sorry you have lost me! I have the correct marriage in 1858 to Mary Maunder.  If only they all had two or three Christian names it would make it all so much easier.

[horse000]

It probably doesn't impact too much since it is after 1851, but there is a marriage for Sampson Harris and Mary Maunder or Mary Ann Nancarrow with the same reg details, V 5b, P 637.

Geoff

[suejim]

I have the dertificate, it's Mary Maunder, why can't it all be simple.

[JaneyCanuck]

Now just to clarify -- DOB7 posted:

"The 1841 census shows a candidiate for Sampson aged 51 living at Sancreed, Cornwall HO107 piece 144 folio 14/36 page 8."

and that is the Sampson I was then following around:

"There is a Sampson Harris, 60, mariner, born Creed, Cornwall, in Megavissey, Cornwall, who bears a strong resemblance to the Sampson noted in the 1841 census.  With wife Mary."

and that is the wrong Sampson Harris in both years.

At least he's ruled out -- leaving you with no Sampson in a census in either 41 or 51.

I do wish you had said earlier:

"Sampson Harris was born in 1812 in Plymouth, son of John and Elizabeth Harris."

(and also about the remarriage) because that is the information that is needed when searching for someone, and I just assumed you didn't know.

I would imagine Sampson was on vessels a lot of the time (a search in 1851 using "vessels" as civil parish doesn't turn him up either).


These are the 1861 details in Devon St Andrew, which could help with searching:

Sampson Harris, 48, Engineer RN, Devonport
Mary A, 33, Tavistock
Frederick, 9, Sheerness
Elizabeth A, 7, Sheerness
with a visiting RN engineer and his much younger wife and her daughter, and a house servant.

Sampson Jr was away at school? Yes, in Greenwich.

Is there an address on the 1851 birth certificate, btw?

[horse000]

Hi

Not alone in this quest ?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,39162.0.html

Geoff

[horse000]

It looks as though Sampson H Sr., was an engineer/inspector of some kind. See link below and scroll down to; 16 January 1866.

http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowShip.php?id=140

Geoff

[JaneyCanuck]

Well that's interesting -- from the other thread:

"Thankyou Bryant and Casalguidi for your help and advice.  I do have the birth cert of Sampson Edward Harris with both parents names and RAYN is the name for mothers maiden name, however we know that could be open to interpretation!  I did look for the 1851 census for the address where S.E.Harris was born and there was a family called RAINE living there.  The couple were old enough to have been the parents of Charlotte Augusta RAYN but I cannot confirm this."

But we do have the name RYAN from other birth certificates, right?

Someplace in the last day I have run into the name Rayn/Raine in searches, I just have no idea in connection with what ...

It would make perfect sense for Charlotte to have been from the Sheerness area herself, and lived there while Sampson was at sea.

Maybe Sue knows the names and address and would tell us. I do so like it when people make full disclosure! Trying to help in searches w/o all the info that is available is like having a hand tied behind one's back ...

[horse000]

I didn't comment on it myself as I'm not sure what else Sue will come up with to counter it!

Geoff