Charles SMYTH, Artist and Picture Dealer

[johnupatree]

Been a while since I have been active and so I am reposting my request for information regarding my elusive GGF Frederick.
I have the following facts, from marriage certificates and census returns

Frederick SMYTH born 1859 in Dublin (city)
Baptised 19/5/1878 Ashfield, Co Cavan
Occupation: Driver/Cab Driver
Father Charles SMYTH, two known occupations. 1.Artist 2. Picture Dealer
Emigrated to Liverpool 1882.

I am NOT looking for any information after 1882, his life in Liverpool is well documented, however I have nothing on his life in Ireland.

I do not know his mothers name, parish of birth, spouses etc

Long shot, but worth a try!

Any information gratefully recieved.

[shanew147]

To save on duplicated research it's much better to update your existing topic if you have new clues that might help your search, rather than starting a new one.


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[johnupatree]

Pardon me!

[shanew147]

I know it's an old thread - but it's better to keep it all together.

For reference there was a related post about a search for Frederick Smyth's baptism :

  St Thomas Lookup Request

[johnupatree]

No problem, been a while since I have been active and I am a bit rusty with the protocols etc

Thanks again

[shanew147]

I had a very quick look at some Dublin City directories for any sign of Charles - but no Artists or Picture dealers listed  by that name.

Have you checked English census returns for Charles in case he ever lived in England ?

I have an 1857 directory at home which I'll have a look at later...


S.

[johnupatree]

Had a look a few years ago on the UK census, but nothing. As I dont have a spouse name it is a bit hit and miss. No mention in any of the family documents or letters of Charles ever being in England.

Very frustrating!

[taramcdsmall]

Hi 'john...'

Was there really a 20 year gap between him being born an being baptised or was that a typo

Also what did Frederick name his daughters ? Sometimes this can help with the mother's name !

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Hi there,

The free index on ifhf shows a Frederick Smyth baptised in 1861 to a Charles Smyth in County Cavan.

I'm not sure though if this is a rare enough combination of names and places for it to be a good match yet.

I'm just reading through your old messages

1. Frederick born in Dublin City in 1859
2. Raised in Wicklow mountains
3. Baptised in Cavan in 1878
4. Lived adult life in Liverpool

HUM WIDE search area

Tara