St Lukes Somers Town records

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I'm looking for the baptisms of this church. Another researcher said Frederick Barnes born 1824 was born there. So far no luck.  He was reportedly born to Robert Barnes a shoemaker from Birmingham. 

Frederick married at the St Phillips church in Granville Sq, Clerkenwell on the 15 July 1853 to Eliza Ann Chivers. We found their children born at St Pancras and Islington.

I've been looking at the history of this St Lukes church on the internet, it was pulled down in 1868 to make way for the Midland railway station. Where did the records go?

[CaroleW]

1871 census shows his birthplace as St Pancras - he was widowed and living in Essex in 1871

[CaroleW]

The marriage was in 1853 and both are shown as single on the marriage cert but the 1861 shows 3 children born before 1853

Elizabeth 11
Fanny 10
William 9

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Thank you Carol, yes he died in Essex on the 4th of Jan 1874 at Stratford.

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The marriage was in 1853 and both are shown as single on the marriage cert but the 1861 shows 3 children born before 1853

Elizabeth 11
Fanny 10
William 9

Yes, I suspect the used a false name on the  1851 census, James NELSON and Eliza, children, Fanny and Elizabeth. William was born after that cenus. Is using  false name usual for couples who weren't married?

[CaroleW]

yes he died in Essex on the 4th of Jan 1874 at Stratford.

The only Barnes entry for Essex in the March qtr 1874 is William Frederick aged 49

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Thanks, I'd missed that fact. Maybe looking for the baptism of a 'Frederick' was misleading. I should be looking for a 'William'.

[CaroleW]

Another researcher said Frederick Barnes born 1824 was born there

I suspect the used a false name on the  1851 census, James NELSON and Eliza, children, Fanny and Elizabeth

Have you looked at that 1851 entry?

Fanny is Frances aged 4 and Elizabeth is Eliza aged 2

In 1861 Fanny is 11

I am intrigued to know how anybody associated an 1851 for James Nelson as being the same family as Frederick Barnes?

Who reported the 1874 death for William Frederick Barnes

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It looks like A Barnes. I've attached the death certificate and a family tree diagram with the information we know. Thanks for your help. I just need a baptism for Fred.