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Offline Joolz Brutnell

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Looking for a london burial
« on: Tuesday 31 July 12 10:24 BST (UK) »
I am searching for Emmanuel Scarrott burial . He died 5th May 1846 ; his address when he died was 44 Edward Street St Pancras London .

Any help would be appreciated :)
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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 10:53 BST (UK) »
Good Morning
Had a look at St Pancras parish church and no burial there I'm afraid.
I assume you have hem on the 1841 census age 79 with Sarah age 67 presumeably his wife.She seems to die June 1847 Pancras 1 260.
There is a burial for an Emanuel age 7 18.12.1836 St Anne Soho Star court who may be some relation.
There are possible indentures in the 1820's to an Emmanuel Scarrott of Birmingham which would fit with a marriage to sarah Hallan at St Martin's 6/1/1785.Could they possible be the same man with businesses in both  locations?
Sorry I can't find more
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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 11:21 BST (UK) »
Well hello there

Thank you so much for all that info

I would love to know more . You talk about Sarah Hallen .. she is my Great Grandmother . How do I go about getting these items / info .
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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 11:25 BST (UK) »
Yes I have him in 1841 census with Sarah his wife . I am a little shocked about Emmanuel aged 7 and his burial

the answer is Yes Emmanuel first has a Button Making Business in Newall Street Birmingham then went to London about 1806c
In Birmingham he was in partnership with John Hallen his Father in Law

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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 13:25 BST (UK) »
Found out who little Emmanuel buried in 1836 is ... he is my Emmanuel Scarrotts grandson . Born to William Read Scarrott & his wife Elizabeth . Elizabeth was at the Old Bailey in 1841 and states she is wife of William Scarrott Cabinet Maker of Star Court St Annes Soho .
Thank you so much for that snippet of info about little Emmanuel .
Any idea where I can find those Indentures ?
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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 August 12 10:35 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
Sorry to not get back to you sooner.The info about Sarah Hallen and the marriage in 1785 at Birmingham is on familysearch and the originals are at Birmingham archives.
There are also some children baptised at st Phillips Birmingham
John Emmanul Scarrott 31.1.1787 buried 19.4.1787
Jane 18.5.1796
William Read 26.8.1797
Emmanuel 23.9.1799 buried 2.6.1801
George 20.2.1801 buried 29.6.1801
Sarah 18.8.1803
There is also apossible baptism for Emmanuel Scarrett to a Thomas and Mary 22.10.1762 at Wellington Shropshire .
I'm sorry but the indentures I spotted are actually taxes for apprentices on Ancestry
15.1.1787 Messers Hallen and Scarrott Birmingham Co of Warwick Button maker apprentice William Lucy.
Emmanuel is  listed in Chapmans directory of 1800and 1801  at  36 Newhall st.
He's also on the Warwickshire land tax of 1798 in Newhall st renting from Le Colmore Esq for 3 s 9 d.
All for now

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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 August 12 11:02 BST (UK) »
Had a look for the Hallens in Birmingham.
Sarah Boylston Hallen baptised 31.3.1774 St Phillips to John boylston Hallen and Charlotte.
Sister Lucy turner 7.7.1779.
John Boylston Hallen to John clay Hallen and Sarah 2.4.1752 St Martins
siblings Ann 15.8.1749-17.3.1749
Sarah ann 14.9.1750
Clay 4.12.1753
Arabella 23.1.1756
John Bolyston Hallen married Charlotte Turner at Wroxeter Shrops 17.7.1772
He's in directories for Birmingham 1783 -1797 as an attorney Hill St.
19.4.1778 apprentice Henry Blews (re apprentice tax)
19.101.1781 apprentice George  Frease
There is also a John Hallen 1780 and 1781 30 Newhall St button maker Bailey's directory
1770 -1776 sketchley's button maker 11 upper Priory St
John  clay Hallen apprentices:-26.8.1751 Thomas s of John Hamming
Jos Carlos 92.1757 To John  Clay Hallen attornay.
19.6.1762 Thomas Gem.
Sorry but looking at the directories it has just occurred to me that perhaps there are 2 Hallen families here ,one button makers and the other attorneys.
But that's what I can see for now.
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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 August 12 13:24 BST (UK) »
Hi,

These look like their burials,


Burials in the Parish of Saint Giles In The Fields
13 May 1846 
Emanuel SCARRIOT
Abode:  ?? St Marylebone St.
Age: 74

It is possible that Emmanuel didn't die at home and was at a different address when he died, maybe a relatives :-\


 
Burials in the Parish of Saint Giles In The Fields
27 May 1847
Sarah SCARRIOTT
Abode:  Foley St.
Age: 73


Sarah is transcribed as STARRET at Ancestry but the image looks like SCARRIOTT.


Regards,
Daisy
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Re: Looking for a london burial
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 August 12 16:32 BST (UK) »
Daisy you are an absolute diamond :) thank you so much , really appreciated X
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