Author Topic: Length of time between birth and baptism, and finding Margaret WYNNE  (Read 12997 times)

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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 17:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the advice groom, I'll not start a new thread, I'll stick with the two I have and put a link to this one in with the first one :)
WYNNE and HUMPHREYS - Soughton, Flintshire
LLOYD and JONES - Gwernaffield/Northop/Rhydymwyn, Flintshire
ROWLAND/S - Dinas Mawddwy/Merionethshire and Caernarfon

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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 17:33 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Possible family in 1901:

Jane Wynne (wid 49) with children; Sarah (16), Edwin (20), Maggie (27), Florrie (6).  Living in Northop, Soughton, Flints.




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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 18:22 BST (UK) »
Oh that's brilliant Nanny Jan, thank you!
WYNNE and HUMPHREYS - Soughton, Flintshire
LLOYD and JONES - Gwernaffield/Northop/Rhydymwyn, Flintshire
ROWLAND/S - Dinas Mawddwy/Merionethshire and Caernarfon

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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 19:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm slightly curious;  children are usually listed in age order.......so was Florrie the daughter of Maggie or Jane?


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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 20:39 BST (UK) »
I had just been wondering about that! I was trying to trace them back to 1891 to see if Maggie had moved out. The way the children are listed on that suggests that she had, then moved back, so almost being listed as a 'separate' family unit underneath her siblings who usually lived there/hadn't left yet?

I don't know if that makes sense, the excitement of having found a possible lead, and endless searching is making my brain a bit fried!

I've also been searching for possible death certs, wondering if she had intended to keep baby Margaret, with the baptism suggesting she had her until at least 11 mths old, but something happened to her.
WYNNE and HUMPHREYS - Soughton, Flintshire
LLOYD and JONES - Gwernaffield/Northop/Rhydymwyn, Flintshire
ROWLAND/S - Dinas Mawddwy/Merionethshire and Caernarfon

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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 20:56 BST (UK) »
Here they are in 1891 Piece: 4607 Folio: 24 Page: 6   
Soughton Mountain, Northop, Soughton



WYNNE, John   Head   Married   M   38        Coal Miner     Mold, Flintshire       
WYNNE, Jane   Wife   Married   F   40                                      Liverpool, Lancashire       
WYNNE, Emma   Daughter      F   14                                      Soughton, Flintshire       
WYNNE, Edwin   Son             M   11                                       Soughton, Flintshire       
WYNNE, Sarah   Daughter      F   6                                      Soughton, Flintshire
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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 20:58 BST (UK) »
Brain a bit fried.........I know how you feel......just take a break and do something else;  you might find ideas just bubble up.

It could be that Margaret died, became ill, found a job, married or emigrated.  Have you looked for her on 1911?

I searched for a brother and sister for a long time and then found that they had emigrated to Canada.   ;)

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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 21:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks Groom, I'd looked at that but on the 1901 Jane is listed as born in Mold - I've seen people say that ages can change a little over censuses, especially womens, and the occasional difference in names.. could the same apply to birth place? Certainly looks like the same family.

I should have a break Nanny Jan, I know, I just keep finding myself drawn back for "another quick look.."  ;D Still haven't placed her on 1911.
WYNNE and HUMPHREYS - Soughton, Flintshire
LLOYD and JONES - Gwernaffield/Northop/Rhydymwyn, Flintshire
ROWLAND/S - Dinas Mawddwy/Merionethshire and Caernarfon

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Re: Length of time between birth and baptism.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 31 July 12 21:25 BST (UK) »
Very easy for places of birth to change. My great x 3 grandfather says he was born in Yarmouth one census and London in another. Sometimes it is a mistake with the place of birth being dittoed from the person above and at other times they just didn't know.
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