Length of time between birth and baptism, and finding Margaret WYNNE

[sem73]

Hi All

What a little mystery!...

Long shot or possibility??....

Marriage 1908 - Margaret Wynne & Thomas Humphreys....

Following family found on 1911 ...
Ref -  RG14 Piece:33943 Schedule Number: 27.

Sarah

[Cariad.bach]

Ah so totally feasible that a birth place could differ, thanks Groom.

I found a family that would fit in 1881 but the mother is down as Ann, although there is a daughter Jane at that point too, not sure if that's too much of a long shot.

John, 31, miner
Ann, 30
Margaret, 7
Jane, 6
William, 5
Amma 3
Edwin 18mth

Hi Sarah, that marriage could explain things, but how sad if this is her that she had to give up a daughter (possibly two if Florrie was hers, can't link her yet) to marry.

[nanny jan]

Long shot or possibility??....
 
Marriage 1908 - Margaret Wynne & Thomas Humphreys....


Sarah

Hi,

I've found that marriage in 1909       


Nanny Jan

[Cariad.bach]

Is there a way for me to find the address on the birth cert, Willow Cottage? I keep trying but can't find it at all.

[sem73]

Hi all

You're right Nanny Jan...just relooked found banns 1909 - May 16th,23rd & 30th, Thomas of Mold Parish, Margaret of Northop Parish....

looking like red herring??:...

Sarah

[Cariad.bach]

Hi

I've been looking all over again this morning, this is very likely to be the family isn't it? I suppose a Margaret Wynne could have moved to Soughton in 1903 before she had baby Margaret, but I don't know.. Is there a way to find out year by year where people lived? Somebody mentioned Tithe records to show houses, but I can't find Willow Cottage at all.

I can't find a death for this Margaret, so a marriage would be most likely I suppose, Soughton comes under Northop I think so could that still be her?

I've been trying to find out about Florrie, wondering whether she was Margaret's daughter, rather than Jane's, but I can't really find anything there either (sensing a pattern?!  )

I'm wondering why baby Margaret was baptised in Rhydymwyn, where she ended up living with adopted parents, I know it's not far from Soughton but wouldn't Soughton have had it's own chapel?

Just thinking aloud really, everything's got a bit muddled in my brain, thank you all for continuing to help me with this, I really appreciate others opinions and search skills

[nanny jan]

Hi,

Willow Cottage could have had a name change or several over the years or could have been demolished.

In my tree I have a family having 13 children, all born in a different area of Kent! So ancestors moving around is not unusual.

FreeBMD has a marriage for Margaret Wynne and Thomas Humphreys in SeptQ 1909; could fit with the banns found.

Nanny Jan

[Cariad.bach]

Hi

Thanks, I'd been looking for Willow Cottage on the 1901 census but couldn't find it, though there appeared to be a few places that just came under 'Soughton' so could be one of those maybe.

I suppose I'm just trying to establish a 'definate' for this family before I follow them too far - I think it certainly looks like it's them but am not sure how I can say for sure, being very new to this I'm finding that I follow a lot of 'hunches' and go from there, is it like that for everyone?!

I can't find this family in the 1881 - the closest I can find are these people, the ages of the children would fit, but the ages for the parents don't tally with the 1891. Oh, and Jane appears to be called Ann? (Emma looks to be Amma, but I can go with that!) Would someone mind having a look and seeing what you think please?

WYNNE, John   Head    Married    age 31   born 1850 in Mold, Flintshire
WYNNE, Ann   Wife    Married    age 30   born 1851 in Liverpool, Lancashire
WYNNE, Margaret    Daughter age 7   born 1874 in Soughton, Flintshire
WYNNE, Jane   Daughter  age 6   born 1875 in Mold, Flintshire, Wales
WYNNE, William   Son           age 5  born 1876 in Soughton, Flintshire, Wales
WYNNE, Amma   Daughter  age 3   born 1878 in " "      " "      ""            ""
WYNNE, Edwin   Son      age 1   born 1880 in      ""          ""            ""

Thanks for the marriage, if I order the certificate will it tell me both her parents names or just her father?

Thanks all, Emma    

[groom]

I think that has to be them - too many coincidences not to be.

Marriage certificate will give you her father's name and occupation.   This site might help you http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/marriages.htm