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coroners inquest 1938
« on: Friday 27 July 12 21:38 BST (UK) »
There was a coroners inquest on 18 nov 1938 into the death of William Thomas aged 64yrs who died 16 nov. Does anyone know if these records still exist and if so where they can be viewed.
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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 July 12 23:38 BST (UK) »
There were/are a number of coroner's for Wales, depending on where the death took place.

Generally, I think these records will be 'closed' for 100 years. The local newspaper might have an account of the inquest which would normally have taken place some time after the death.

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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 July 12 10:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Bernard.
The coroner was Gerald Tudor and the inquest was 18 nov 1938.Do you know if they release records if you can prove kinship? I assume the paper would be the Western Mail for Cardiff. I will have to arrange a visit to there to look look at the records.
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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 July 12 10:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The local archives might have the file; the death certificate should read " Gerald Tudor, Coroner for xxxxxxxxx".  They can also advise the most likely newspapers to have carried reports of inquests.


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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 July 12 11:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Jane,

If it was a Swansea Death & Inquest, you might be out of luck.

I tried chasing up one for a family member who committed suicide in Swansea in 1930. I was told that the papers were stored at the Archives until the 1970's, - when they were water damaged and thrown out:-(

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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 July 12 23:32 BST (UK) »
You may well be right, Romilly. But I'd contact Philip Rogers at the Coroner's Office, Civic Centre, Oystermouth Road, Swansea, SA1 3SN. He is the current Swansea coroner. I understand he recently deposited a lot of 19th century inquest records at the West Glamorgan Archive Service.

That being the case I wonder if the more recent records were sent to the WGAS while the older ones stayed with the coroner (until recently). Or has he still got the newer ones?

Worth asking...? Assuming it was a Swansea and district death, of course.

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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 July 12 09:05 BST (UK) »
Try here: http://www.glamarchives.gov.uk/ -a cursory use of the search in the catalogue yields some possible hits. You could explore the catalogue from here, or email the very helpful staff for advice.
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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 July 12 11:28 BST (UK) »
You may well be right, Romilly. But I'd contact Philip Rogers at the Coroner's Office, Civic Centre, Oystermouth Road, Swansea, SA1 3SN. He is the current Swansea coroner. I understand he recently deposited a lot of 19th century inquest records at the West Glamorgan Archive Service.
That being the case I wonder if the more recent records were sent to the WGAS while the older ones stayed with the coroner (until recently). Or has he still got the newer ones?
Worth asking...? Assuming it was a Swansea and district death, of course.
Bernard

Hi Bernard,

Possibly they've been passed on under the '100 year' closed rule? (I guess the 1930's ones wouldn't be available until the 2030's, - if they've survived that is).

Is there an email address for the Coroner's Office btw?

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Re: coroners inquest 1938
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 July 12 13:25 BST (UK) »
I think it was the 100 year rule plus he was fairly new in post and keen to secure the records for the future. Why would one of his predecessors have passed 'newer' records to WGAS but kept the older ones?

Worth asking him in case you were misled. Don't know his email but a search on the Swansea city council website might turn something up.

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