Ireland marriages indices - dates of registration

[stethomson]

Hi,

If I am expecting there to be, in my family, a Henry Walker who married a Jane English, and the closest I can find are the following marriage index entries:

Henry Walker
Date of registration:  1847
Registration district:  Banbridge
Volume:  2
Page:  351

Jane English
Date of registration:  1846
Registration district:  Banbridge
Volume:  2
Page:  435

...are these likely to have been the two in question?  I suppose my question is whether the fact that there is a 1 year difference in registration for each of them, and that they appear in different pages of the same volume, means they could / could not have been married to each other?  If they could have been, I can try ordering the certificate from GRO Roscommon.

Thanks.

[shanew147]

those two references do not relate to the same marriage. For a possible match you need the same registration district, year (and quarter if there is one), volume number and page number for the bride and groom - i.e. on the same page of the marriage register.

for notes on ordering certs see  :

   Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon


Shane

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   I cannot find your Walker/English marriage but the two which you found in Banbridge were:-
1846 Thomas Hutchinson and Jane English, !847 Henry Walker and Margaret Russell.

Regards

[stethomson]

Foiled again    These two are proving an elusive pair!  I'll keep trying and report back with anything further.

Thanks both,

Stephen

[aghadowey]

I've also failed to find a marriage between a ? Walker and ? English. So, some questions...

Exactly what information do you have?
Where did you get the name Henry Walker and wife Jane English?
Are you sure the marriage took place in Ireland? (I also checked FreeBMD and got no reulsts for England and Wales)
Were they supposed to have any children? (dates and places might pinpoint the marriage)

[stethomson]

I'm not sure where their marriage took place at all.

The information I've got is from their daughter's marriage and death certificates - Annie Templeton Walker.  Her marriage certificate (13/07/1872, St. Anne's Church of Ireland, Belfast) states her father as Henry Walker (Carpenter), it doesn't list her mother.  Her death certificate (08/09/1914, Govan, Glasgow) states her father as Henry Walker (Farm Labourer) (Deceased) and her mother as Jane Walker, M.S. English (Deceased); although the informant on this death certificate is Annie's son, John Thomson, who I suppose might have mixed up names or not known real names.  This is possible as he is also the informant on his father's death certificate, where he lists his (paternal) grandfather as John Thompson, whereas his father's marriage certificate (probably more reliable for accuracy) lists that person as Hugh Thompson.

What I'm not sure if is what to do if, for example, Jane's maiden surname wasn't English at all... how do you go about finding the "real" name/person?

[stethomson]

P.S.  Especially when no census returns are available for Ireland at this time.

[aghadowey]

So, looks like the name Jane English might not be accurate.

When was Anne Walker born? do you know of any siblings born 1864 or later in Ireland? or even better any born/married in Scotland?

We should probably be looking for Henry Walker a carpenter who died before 1872. Although Ann married in Belfast her family may not have lived there.

[myluck!]

Have you looked for Henry Walker and Jane Hutchinson after 1847?
It may have been a second marriage for her?