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Bateman in Southport
« on: Wednesday 25 July 12 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi All

I wonder if somone can help.

On ancestry I am having difficulty reading the following page in the 1891 census, it is relating to the bateman family (Thomas being the head).

I wonder if someone could take a look on whatever sources they have and let me know what it says.

I think it is Derbyshire as the County for Thomas's birth and I'm unsure of his wifes name (could be Sara).

Any help would be appreciated.

Class:  RG12; Piece:  3036; Folio:  5; Page:  4; GSU roll:  6098146.

Hope this is the info you need.

Many thanks

Neale

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Re: Bateman in Southport
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 15:12 BST (UK) »
Hi that ref states that Thomas was born Youlgreave Derbyshire and wife possibly a Sara R or E b Scotland
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Re: Bateman in Southport
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 21:58 BST (UK) »
Hi again Neale, if I have corrrect Thomas in 1901 he now states born in Manchester, with what appears to be new wife Renee aged 31 b Paignton Devon, in same household are Agnes Sara and a Jack all born Southport from the 1891.
Census ref RG13/2061/81/16
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Re: Bateman in Southport
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 23:24 BST (UK) »
St Luke Southport
17th Feb 1884
Sarah Bateman,
child of Thomas Bateman and Sarah
abode 6 Hartman Road
father retired
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Bateman in Southport
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 23:27 BST (UK) »
also St Luke
John Ross Bateman
19th Jan 1886
father a gentleman
child of Thomas and Sarah Bateman
abode 6 Hartwood Street
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Bateman in Southport
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 August 12 10:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks Keyboard and Radcliff.

Very interesting the link to youlgreave.  Seems to be a large influential family from there and Thomas being a Gentleman makes you wonder.

Your right on with the Paignton and the second marriage information.

Now to see if I can find Thomas's Birth in Derbyshire.

Many thanks

Neale

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Re: Bateman in Southport
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 02 August 12 13:43 BST (UK) »
So sorry to bother you again, but the images on Ancestry are against me at the moment.

This 1861 image:

RG 9/ 2540/88 Page:  50

looks like it could be the Thomas Bateman that I am looking for, who is the son of Thomas Bateman the antiquarian, but again i'm struggling to read the place of birth, it is Derby ..........

quite exciting this as the marriage certificate of my friend gt Grandmother (Sarah Bateman) has Thomas (deceased) as her father and his occupation as Gentleman.

As mentioned above he is mentioned in census as living  on his own means and one census has his birth place as Youlgreave in Derbyshire.  This links to the 1961 census above which has his father Thomas and mother Sarah living in Lomberdale House (the musem of Thomas Bateman).

Just a bit of background, and hope someone can help.

Neale
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