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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 July 12 06:01 BST (UK) »
Australian Electoral Roll
1916
MATTHEWS Antoinetta  Katanning  HD
MATTHEWS Thomas Morgan  Korolyn  Katanning  Farm hand

1924, 1931, 1936
MATTHEWS Antonella  Clyde Street  Narrogin  HD
MATTHEWS Thomas Morgan  Clyde Street, Narrogin  Farm manager

Buried at Narrogin cemetery - this lady born c1874 and 13 years older than her husband.
MATTHEWS Antoinette 11 April 1950, Aged 76 years, Wife of Thomas  Anglican R6
MATTHEWS Thomas Morgan 4 August 1947, Aged 60 years, Husband of Antoinette  Anglican R6

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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 July 12 06:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks very much everyone, much appreciated - always get great help here.

Sounds like it might not be the Antoniette I'm looking for but might get a certificate to make sure.

Cheers

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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 02:09 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Following information I received from person who thinks she is related to Antoniette in England,
I've sent away for the WA marriage certificate of Antoniette Welsh and Thomas Morgan Matthews.

On the1910 electoral roll in Subiaco, Thomas is listed as a bootmaker - the information, or more likely rumor,
is that about the time that Antoniette disappeared from her English family, the local cobbler by name of Matthews
also disappeared!

I'd like to find if they had any children here in Australia (WA) but find the WA BDM records online sadly lacking in detail
of the parents, and I don't want to spend money buying certificates on spec.

Anyone have any thoughts on how I can find  a bit more detail so I can buy some certificates for the correct people?

Thanks is advance, cheers

Phil
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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 03:42 BST (UK) »
The online birth index does not detail parents post 1905 so you may have no option other than to purchase her death certificate.   

Nothing like a bit of local knowledge....try the Narrogin Family History Centre, c/o 24 Fox St. NARROGIN WA 6312.   Someone in the community may remember them.  I noticed a Thomas MATTHEWS was appointed secretary of the Narrogin Race Club in 1930.  There is an error on the electoral roll with their address...it should be Glyde Street not Clyde Street.  Please give them all the information you have to save them doing duplicate searching. :)  I do a lot of searching for queries in my local area and become quite annoyed when I spend time [gratis] finding information to be told...we knew that :( :( ::)

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On the1910 electoral roll in Subiaco, Thomas is listed as a bootmaker - the information, or more likely rumor,is that about the time that Antoniette disappeared from her English family, the local cobbler by name of Matthews also disappeared!

What year did she/they disappear and from where?  Have you found Thomas Morgan MATTHEWS on the previous census in the area?  I can only find a Thomas Morgan MATTHEWS born Wales.  Gosh a twenty year age gap if his age at death is correct :o

Australian Electoral Roll
WA 1910
MATTHEWS Antoinetta  486 Hay Street, Subiaco  HD
MATTHEWS Thomas Morgan  486 Hay Street, Subiaco  Bootmaker

Western Australian Postal Directories
1909, 1910
MATTHEWS Thos  bootmaker  43 Peel Street, Jolimont
1949
MATTHEWS T M  Narrogin

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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 04:51 BST (UK) »
This death notice for Thomas gives son, daughter-in-law and their child

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article46331128

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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 05:06 BST (UK) »
Antoinette's death notice
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article47841154

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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 05:10 BST (UK) »
I think Clifford was married twice
http://www.wamarriage.info/

I think he was Clifford Gerald Matthews and fought in second world war
MATTHEWS Clifford Gerald : Service Number - WX31973 : DOB - 26 Jul 1911 : POB - SUBIACO WA : Place of enlistment - KARRAKATTA WA : NOK - MATTHEWS PHYLLIS

Can request a copy of record from naa.gov.au (costs money)

Clifford Gerald Matthews is buried at Northam http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00072478  he died 28/12/1982

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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 05:23 BST (UK) »
W.A.  Electoral Rolls in Northam (as per Antoinette's death notice)

1954
MATTHEWS Clifford Gerald 160? Duke St Northam , postal employee
MATTHEWS Norma May same address HD

pair still in Northam in 1980 and he is now a PMG official.

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Re: Help Please - WA Marriage 1917 of Antonietta Welsh
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 25 July 12 05:29 BST (UK) »
Description of first marriage says
Clifford Gerald Matthews late of Narrogin
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41679579

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Adding : Divorce from first wife

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78472206
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