Parish record phraseology

[ruthy1]

Hi

I would be interested in thoughts about whether the baptism record that reads "james, first son of James perry by his wife jane" indicates that there may have been other son(s) from a first marriage. Or is this a common style of entry.  It was from a record in Northumberland in 1805.

Many thanks

Ruthy

[Emjaybee]

You usuall get to XXX and XXX a son, I seems they needed to  point out this was Janes baby.

Mike

[JenB]

This was the phraseology commonly used in Diocese of Durham  baptisms of that time (known as the Shute Barrington period, after the then Bishop of Durham). Northumberland was part of the Diocese of Durham at the time you mention.

I don't think it implies there has been a previous marriage. Simply that this was their first son. Subsequent entries might say 'the second/third son by his wife Jane'.

If the wife had been previously married you might expect to see something like 'Jane Smith, late Bloggs formerly Jones', i.e her maiden name was Jones, she had been married to a Mr Bloggs and was now marrying a Mr Smith'.

There is some more information here http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/Transcription_Samples.php

[Ruskie]

Jen is correct  ... you might like to look up the baptisms of the other children. Earlier PR's contain even more information so you might get lucky if they had daughters before James. It's extremely useful when the children are numbered.

[JenB]

known as the Shute Barrington period, after the then Bishop of Durham

This is a fairly typical 'Shute Barrington' entry

1805 - Margaret Chapman, born November 18, 1804, baptised March 31st 1805. Second daughter of John Chapman of Headlam, schoolmaster, (son of George Chapman) native of Lartington in the parish of Romaldkirk, Yorkshire, by his wife Mary Robinson (daughter of William Robinson) native of West Rounton, Yorkshire.
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[ruthy1]

Many thanks everyone for the speedy clarification on this and the links to info.