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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 17 July 12 16:00 BST (UK) »
Thankyou again, if I recall I think I got sidetracked by the Henry and Lucy Underwood on the census's when I first started out!
Oxon - Stevens, Bunce, Mobbs, Creek, Hoare,Bates, Austin, Crawford, Richardson, Paxford
Bucks - Stevens, Claydon, Bunce,
Lincs - Twell, Harris, Bilson, Cumberworth, Cooper, Langton, Healey, Twelve(s)
Herefordshire - Gunter, Merry, Tylor
Essex - Underwood, Cant, Finch, Smyth, Frances alias Puckle
Hertfordshire - Clarke, Parker, Francis, Wallace, Aylott, Nottage
Beds - Covington, Bennett, Clark, Carter
Ireland - Manning

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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #10 on: Monday 01 October 12 13:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Opal, I have a Lucy Cant in my tree. Re; Lucy Cant, Wickham St Paul, Born 20 April 1806, father- Robert Cant 1780-1867, mother- Sarah Anne Mitchell Cant (Johnson) 1783-1850, Her father- Edward Johnson 1752-1802, mother- Sarah Mitchell 1750-1824.  Married Richard Underwood, Wickham St Paul, 13 March 1831. Four children. Hope that is of help to you. Paul

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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #11 on: Monday 01 October 12 14:15 BST (UK) »
Thankyou.  Daniel and Mary Cant are the parents of my Lucy and her brother, John, but I do think there is a connection between these two Cant families.  An earlier post on my question on page 1 gives the christening years and further info on the Cant's.
Oxon - Stevens, Bunce, Mobbs, Creek, Hoare,Bates, Austin, Crawford, Richardson, Paxford
Bucks - Stevens, Claydon, Bunce,
Lincs - Twell, Harris, Bilson, Cumberworth, Cooper, Langton, Healey, Twelve(s)
Herefordshire - Gunter, Merry, Tylor
Essex - Underwood, Cant, Finch, Smyth, Frances alias Puckle
Hertfordshire - Clarke, Parker, Francis, Wallace, Aylott, Nottage
Beds - Covington, Bennett, Clark, Carter
Ireland - Manning

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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #12 on: Friday 05 October 12 11:50 BST (UK) »
Hello Opal And Paul,

Wickham St Paul is one of the Essex villages I have been researching. The parish records seem to be a little haphazard but there are a lot of Cant entries. Some forenames occur quite a lot (eg Robert,John,Daniel and Lucy). If you hit any specific brick walls let me know and I will see if I can help. There are Cant families in the 1700 and 1800's in other nearby villages so linking them all is no easy task.

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Mike
Halstead ,The Hedinghams,The Maplesteads,The Belchamps,Gosfield,Gestingthorpe,Stisted,Toppesfield


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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #13 on: Friday 05 October 12 14:09 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for your offer.  If you had time I would be interested to know if there were any baptism entries for Daniel Cant and Mary Hibble.  They were married 16th October 1792 but other than that I know no more about them.  It would be good to be able to go back another generation maybe or possibly further and have their parents etc.  I keep meaning to go onto the Essex RO page and subscribe so that I can view the Parish Register for Wickham St. Paul as I have been unable to find it elsewhere online. It took me a long while to sort out which family Lucy Cant was from and it was finding her brother in the census that helped this. Their marriage I only learnt of thanks to an earlier reply on this thread.
Oxon - Stevens, Bunce, Mobbs, Creek, Hoare,Bates, Austin, Crawford, Richardson, Paxford
Bucks - Stevens, Claydon, Bunce,
Lincs - Twell, Harris, Bilson, Cumberworth, Cooper, Langton, Healey, Twelve(s)
Herefordshire - Gunter, Merry, Tylor
Essex - Underwood, Cant, Finch, Smyth, Frances alias Puckle
Hertfordshire - Clarke, Parker, Francis, Wallace, Aylott, Nottage
Beds - Covington, Bennett, Clark, Carter
Ireland - Manning

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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #14 on: Friday 05 October 12 16:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Opal,

The information I have is -

Daniel & Mary's children in chronological order-

Sarah
Robert
John
Daniel
William
Lucy
Harriet
Letitia

Going back-

John Cant married a Mary (believed to be Mary Joslin)

Children including perhaps a couple of illegitimates -

Robert c1754
married Sarah Spink c1755

John  bapt 6.11.1756 - married Sarah Balls 27.5.1779

Sarah baptised 24.4.1759 -married Samual Corder 10.6.1778

Daniel baptised 6.8.1761 (this would seem a little early for your Daniel - but maybe he died young and another was born a bit later)

William baptised 20.8.1763

Mary baptised 25.3.1770

Thomas baptised 30.12.1772

There is a big gap between 1763 & 1770 which leads me to believe that there were more children born (or lost) in that period including Your Daniel

Robert & Sarah Spink had a son Robert born 1780 who  were the likely parents of Robert who married Sarah Mitchel Johnson - see message from Paul. They had several children

It is complex and subject to logical thinking which may be incorrect.

I have a baptism for Mary Joslin of 29.6.1735

Nothing concrete on John Cant senior altough there was one born 1719 - I have many examples of old chaps fathering children into fairly old age - so it is not impossible.

Let me know if anything needs expanding.

Believe me reseaching villages is far easier than researching towns!

My own particular research names from Wickham St Paul are Pilgrim,Partridge,Warren and Smith

Kind regards

Mike
Halstead ,The Hedinghams,The Maplesteads,The Belchamps,Gosfield,Gestingthorpe,Stisted,Toppesfield

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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #15 on: Friday 05 October 12 19:43 BST (UK) »
Thankyou for the info given, it has given me more than I had to work on.  When I know I can concentrate for a few days I shall subscribe and search the burials as that might give a clue to Daniel.
I notice that you have the Hedinghams as of interest.  I have Underwood and Finch's in Sible and Castle Hedingham - Lucy Cant marries an Underwood.
Oxon - Stevens, Bunce, Mobbs, Creek, Hoare,Bates, Austin, Crawford, Richardson, Paxford
Bucks - Stevens, Claydon, Bunce,
Lincs - Twell, Harris, Bilson, Cumberworth, Cooper, Langton, Healey, Twelve(s)
Herefordshire - Gunter, Merry, Tylor
Essex - Underwood, Cant, Finch, Smyth, Frances alias Puckle
Hertfordshire - Clarke, Parker, Francis, Wallace, Aylott, Nottage
Beds - Covington, Bennett, Clark, Carter
Ireland - Manning

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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #16 on: Friday 05 October 12 19:50 BST (UK) »
Just realised on looking at my tree that Daniel and Mary Cant, aged 75 and 70 are in the 1841 census and so Daniel has an approx. birth year of 1766 at Wickham St. Paul.
Oxon - Stevens, Bunce, Mobbs, Creek, Hoare,Bates, Austin, Crawford, Richardson, Paxford
Bucks - Stevens, Claydon, Bunce,
Lincs - Twell, Harris, Bilson, Cumberworth, Cooper, Langton, Healey, Twelve(s)
Herefordshire - Gunter, Merry, Tylor
Essex - Underwood, Cant, Finch, Smyth, Frances alias Puckle
Hertfordshire - Clarke, Parker, Francis, Wallace, Aylott, Nottage
Beds - Covington, Bennett, Clark, Carter
Ireland - Manning

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Re: Cant family of Wickham St Paul 1802
« Reply #17 on: Friday 05 October 12 20:11 BST (UK) »
Opal,

1841 census could be up to 5 years wrong on dates of birth so he could be the one born 1761 or could be one not in the Parish Register in the gap. Every two years is a fairly common birth cycle in those times.

Finch is a very common name and I have lots from the Hedinghams in my tree - actually there is one in my direct line .  I believe I have some limited Underwood information as well but could be Wickham St Pauls although I know there were some Underwood families in Hedingham.

Give me a Finch name and approx date and I will see if I have a match in my records -meanwhile I will look at Underwoods.

Regards
Mike
Halstead ,The Hedinghams,The Maplesteads,The Belchamps,Gosfield,Gestingthorpe,Stisted,Toppesfield