John LLOYD - father of Richard James and Eliza

[LloydG]

Greetings from New Plymouth, New Zealand!
Richard James LLOYD and his wife Elizabeth (unknown) arrived in NZ on the "Thomas Harrison" Oct 1842. They were accompanied by Richard's sister Eliza and her husband John EDWARDS.
I have a note that "Eliza, daughter of John LLOYD and (unknown) was born about 1818 in Gamorganshire." I think Richard was pos a year older. I have no info on any other siblings.
I'd really like to know more about this branch of the LLOYDs and hopefully more about Richard's wife Elizabeth.
(My mother was Gwlady LLOYD)
Many thanks
Lloyd GLEESON.

[osprey]

do you know of any children that were born before they emigrated?

[lazydaisy]

Wherabouts in UK were they from?

Diane

[lazydaisy]

- sorry - meant to ask in 'Glamorganshire ' not 'UK'

D

[LloydG]

So sorry - I have nothing more to add. That Eliza LLOYD was "born in Glamorganshire abt 1818" and she had a brother - Richard James, and her father was John LLOYD is all I have to go on. I realised it would be a long shot (...I'm also trying to find a Thomas GLEESON in Ireland - which seems to be 90% populated by Thomas Gleesons!!!)
But thanks for your time - much appreciated.
(I don't know if it will help, but I've found out that Eliza married John EDWARDS (son of Edward Edwards) on 21 March 1842 in St James, Westminster, London, and Richard and his wife Elizabeth were witnesses at the wedding. John was also "born in Glamorganshire" so perhaps their marriage record might show a more specific location?)

[osprey]

the marriage record won't tell you where they were born, just where they were living at the time, along with the name of the fathers and their occupations.

The marriage doesn't seem to be in the parish marriages for Westminster on Ancestry, so if you want the certificate, you'll need to buy a copy from the GRO.

Do you have any idea of occupations for Richard Lloyd or John Edwards? Or age for John Edwards? it's not an uncommon name.

 

[LloydG]

For Richard Lloyd and his wife Elizabeth (the ones I am most interested in) I have nothing at all, but for John Edwards (who married Richard's sister Eliza) I have his occupation at the time of their marriage as 'Carpenter'.
I don't believe that any of them had children whilst still in UK.
Richard and Elizabeth had a son (Henry David - my gr grandfather) in 1843 soon after settling in NZ, but I have found nothing about other children of theirs. (However, Henry David's children were Henry William, Charles Herbert, Richard John, Owan (or Owain), and Hubert.)
John and Eliza's children were Thomas, John, Edward, Charles, Sarah Anne, and Robert David.
I apologise for my ignorance!

[osprey]

given that they're only in the UK for the 1841 census, there aren't any records that will give their place of birth. That census only gives whether or not a person is born in the county that they're enumerated in, or if they're born in Scotland, Ireland or Foreign Parts. There's a baptism for an Eliza daughter of John in Llangyfelach in 1819

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Baptisms&RecordID=7188705

but I can't see Richard and John Lloyd isn't exactly an uncommon name. Do you have a copy of the marriage cert? If so, where did they marry? I'm wondering if the family were non-conformist and so there won't be parish baptisms.

 

[LloydG]

There is a possibility that Richard's wife Elizabeth had the maiden name MAY, but apart from this one small snippet of info, I've become stranded this corner of the briar patch that I refer to as family tree!
Regards to all in RootsChat-land!