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Hatfield bushrangers, members
« on: Saturday 14 July 12 01:04 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
I am researching the Hatfield bushrangers for a little project of mine. 
Not a well know group of bushrangers and their life as bushrangers was only short lived. (4 days  ;D )
I have a lot of details from Trove newspaper site, lots.

Hatfield, NSW, between Balranald and Ivanhoe.
Year - 1879

What I need is a bit more background on the men.

- Thomas Gorman b.c. 1858 stockman (likely ring leader) -21 years hard labour
- charles Jones, b.c. 1858, stockman from Qld. - 14 years hard labour
- William Kaye, b.c. 1860 , stockman local to Hatfield, NSW - 10 years hard labour
- William Hobbs, b.c. 1846, ex- sailor, deformed arm and leg. cook at Hatfield, - 14 years hard labour.

I know what sentences they got but do not know which gaol they ended up in.  The trial was at Deniliquin.
If I can find out where they were born, when they died, if they ever married it will help ad to my files and background details.

thanks in advance
Margaret
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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 14 July 12 01:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,

NSW Police Gazette 12 March 1879 has a lengthy notices re the arrests, the rewards and promotions for the police offices involved in the arrests. 

If you need a copy please PM me.

Regards
Gerry

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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 14 July 12 02:51 BST (UK) »
Hi there

Back in 1870 the ER has a :
Frederick HOBBS as resident,  Yanko
And a :
Daniel GORMAN as a resident, Berregagama
But I cannot see any KAYE there for ALL the Jones listings

On to 1878’s ER
John GORMAN, residence, Landale’s Run (ie Deni Stn)
Michael GORMAN, residence, Deni
William KAY, (no ‘e’) residence, Deni
Jonas KAY, (no ‘e’)  freehold, Bunaloo

FOUR DAYS only ... only four ... 
someone should have ENROLLED them in a proper training centre for skills development  BEFOREHAND  ;D

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 July 12 03:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gerry, I shall pm you  ;)
JM, thank you also, yeah, 4 days. Think they were accidental bushrangers,  ;D
So young too.

thank you both,

Margaret
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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 July 12 04:00 BST (UK) »
Have a look at the NSW Archives' gaol photographs, possibly some of your persons of interest there.

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexesold/searchform.aspx?id=22

It is very inexpensive to buy copies of the records and they are very nice, high quality copies.  They also digitise the record online after you have purchased a hard copy.  They can be very informative with details of criminal and personal history.

Debra  :)

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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 July 12 04:05 BST (UK) »
With a trial at Deniliquin, would the nearest gaol be Bathurst?

SRNSW has photos of Bathurst gaol inmates in the period you are looking at, and also records.
I'd try there first, if it were me.

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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 July 12 04:13 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has a partnership with NSW SRO at the moment with many of the gaol photos and crim sheets detailed  ;D



Cheers,  JM  PS, little meg, please check for PM from me.
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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 14 July 12 04:17 BST (UK) »
Would Albury GAOL be likely  :)

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Re: Hatfield bushrangers, members
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 14 July 12 04:35 BST (UK) »
Didn't know Albury had a gaol (thought they were all law abiding citizens there )  ::)  ::)  ::)

But I see it was there in 1876, so look at that too.

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