beatrice biggs

[Ladyhawk]

now i,m confused, we have found a conundrum

HENRY RICHARD BIGGS married 1894 ROTHERHITHE to Sarah H ? 1901 they are in ROTHERHITHE ,with 4 children

1911  SARAH is living with Brother in law ALBERT in Rotherhithe with only 2 children
something happened between 1901 and 1911

another marriage for HENRY RICHARD BIGGS 1907

On FreeBMD I can’t see a marriage for Henry Richard Biggs to a Sarah in 1894 
only 1859 Shoreditch

Dec 1859 Shoreditch
Henry Richard Biggs
Either
Sarah Hale
Eliza Wilkins

Henry Richard Biggs 30 single  Mariner f Richard Commercial Traveller
married 15 Dec 1859 St Leonard Shoreditch Eliza Wilkins
Wits Henry Wilton & Lucy Hamilton

Jun 1879 Mile End Old Town
Henry Richard Biggs
Either
Jane Hannah Cook
Maria Johnson
Louisa Salmon

Henry Richard Biggs single age 24 occ Fitter f George (Dec’d) Master Shipwright
married 7 May 1879 Holy Trinity Mile End Louisa Salmon
wits Charles W & Ellen Salmon

Sep 1896 St Olave (marriage details given by Jjen married Eliza Ann)
Henry Richard Biggs
either
Eliza Ann Jones
Ann Whiteley

Jun 1907 (marriage details given married Emily)
Henry Richard Biggs
Either
Ethel Holder Jewson
Emily Morley

Arry can give you details of the 1907 marriage so possibly you can eliminate this Henry Richard Biggs from your search

1907 Wandsworth
Henry Richard Biggs
To either
Ethel Holder Jewson
Emily Morley

Henry Richard Biggs age 24 (1883) Batchelor occ Examiner (Electric Light) father George Thomas William Biggs Gardener
married 19 May 1907 St Bartholomew Battersea Emily Morley age 21 f Tom Builder residence of both  91 Beaufry Road
Wits George Thomas William Biggs & George Edwin Betchley

1901 RG13; Piece: 463; Folio: 56; Page: 19
George T W Biggs 47 wife Thirza Ann 45
George T W 22, HENRY R (Richard) 18, Alfred F (James) 15, Charles E (Edward) 12, Sydney R (Kendall)  6 & Albert A (Arthur) 1

Looking at free index 1911 Henry & Emily have only one child Annie b1910

[Ladyhawk]

HENRY RICHARD BIGGS married 1894 ROTHERHITHE to Sarah H ?

1901 census they are in ROTHERHITHE ,with 4 children

1911 census ,SARAH is living with Brother in law ALBERT in Rotherhithe with only 2 children

This is the only Sarah I can see living in Rotherhithe with her parents, 4 children and husband named Alfred Biggs 

1901 RG13; Piece: 397; Folio: 30; Page: 52.
9 Neston Street Rotherhithe
William Coombs 50 Southampton occ Deal Porter
Henrietta 51 Salisbury
Alfred BIGGS son in law 33 Bitterne Hants occ Brick Layer Labourer
Sarah dau 28 Southampton
HENRY gd/son 9 Rotherhithe
Daisy (Violet)  6  Rotherhithe
Sarah 4 Bitterne Hants
James 4 months Rotherhithe

Sarah Eliza Combes f Charles William Porter
Married 2 Nov 1890 St Mary Magdalene Southwark
Alfred Biggs 22 occ Labourer f Charles Labourer
Res Pages’ Walk

Henry Charles William Biggs
bapt 20 Dec 1891 St Mary Rotherhithe
Alfred Biggs lab.  & Sarah Eliza abode 28 Princes Street

Daisy Violet Biggs bapt 15 Sep 1895 St Mary Rotherhithe
f Alfred occ Plaster’s Labourer m Sarah abode 5 Adam’s Gardens

Daisy Violet married age 21 
25 Dec 1912 St James Bermondsey Robert Makepeace 32 Lead & Metal Worker
Daisy father is deceased but named as Frederick   occ Brick layer
1911 Daisy with grandparents & sister Sarah living with relatives (Biggs)

Hopefully you will be able to find out more information about Henry Richard Biggs and eliminate some of the information that has been provided and someone may be able to trace Beatrice Biggs

for info. here's Alfred Biggs with parents & siblings on 1881c

RG11; Piece: 1218; Folio: 39; Page: 13
High Street Red Lion Place Hampshire
Charles Biggs Bricklayer's Lab., Eliza, Rose, Alfred 12 Bitterne , Henry, Charles, Amy & Elizabeth

[arry]

Hi Ladyhawk ,
Having looked at your results ,i now think that somehow ,i have wondered off the line ,i shall see the chap at age concern and see what he thinks ,i,m almost sure that its the HENRY RICHARD BIGGS who married 1896 st olave ,because he keeps coming back to it and he remembers meeting BEATRICE BIGGS ,of course the other alternitive that her birth name is not BEATRICE maybe that was a pet name ,thank you very much for your efforts ,i will repost on tuesday ,hopefully get it sorted .

[arry]

Hi Ladyhawk ,
have just found marriage ,knew i had it somewhere ,from freebmd ,what i dont have is who he married ,it reads  HENRY RICHARD BIGGS 1896 not4 ,ST OLAVE  1d   534,
many thanks arry

[JJen]

Hi arry,

If you look at my post of #16 it is for the marriage in 1896. 

Henry Richard Biggs married Eliza Ann Jones.

JJ

[JJen]

Full details of the marriage -

14 Sep 1891, St Mary, Rotherhithe,

Henry Richard Biggs 24 Bachelor, Deal Porter, 24 Ainsty Street
Father Thomas Biggs, Lighterman (deceased)

Eliza Ann Jones, 23 Spinster, 12 Fulford Street (same address as that of the 1901 census)
Father - Thomas Jones, Labourer

Witnesses - Robert Buckland and Alice Emily Buckland

JJ

[arry]

Hi jjen ,
yes thanks to you i think we are getting there ,i,m sure the confusion was he thougnt HENRY RICHARD was married to a SARAH H ,now i see where we were going wrong  will take all this info on tuesday ,but i,m sure you are right ,many thanks Arry

[Ladyhawk]

Full details of the marriage -

14 Sep 1891, St Mary, Rotherhithe,

Henry Richard Biggs 24 Bachelor, Deal Porter, 24 Ainsty Street
Father Thomas Biggs, Lighterman (deceased)

Eliza Ann Jones, 23 Spinster, 12 Fulford Street (same address as that of the 1901 census)
Father - Thomas Jones, Labourer

Witnesses - Robert Buckland and Alice Emily Buckland

for info. Robert Buckland widow 30 Mariner married 24 Oct 1892 All Saints WalworthAlice Emily Jones 22 Abode 12 Barlow Street father Thomas Jones occ Iron Turner (not sure whether Alice is related to Eliza Ann)

See my reply #17
Henry Richard Biggs & Eliza Ann's had dau Sarah

I thought I may have been onto something when I found Sarah's marriage,
one of the witnesses was named Beatrice Cumner
had a look for a Biggs/Cumner marriage thought perhaps Beatrice may have been her sister but unfortunately looks as if that's not the case    - see info. below

Sarah Ann Biggs 22 f Richard Biggs Deal Porter
Married 24 Nov 1914 Harry Martin Kerr Decorator f Harry Martin (Dec’d) Stoker
Res 109 Lower Road  Wits Robert Pestell & Beatrice Cumner

1920/21 Electoral Register Bermondsey & Bethnal Green
22 Clark’s Orchard
Beatrice Cumner
Mary (Ann) Blunt

16 Jun 1920 Christ Church Rotherhithe
Amelia Beatrice Cumner 32 Widow 22 Clark’s Orchard f Thomas S? Jones Waterside Lab.
Walter Blunt 32 Ships Fireman f William (Dec’d)Lighterman

10 Jul 1904 Christ church Rotherhithe
Amelia Beatrice Jones 20 f Thomas Jones Stoker
James William Cumner 22 f George William

children
Sarah Elizabeth Cumner bapt 2 Jun 1905 Christ Church Rotherhithe
James William & Beatrice Amelia Abode 2 Elizabeth Place

Emily Lydia Cumner bapt 28 Oct 1906 Christ Church Rotherhithe
James William waterside lab.& Amelia Beatrice abode 9 Braddon Street

No baptisms available of other two children James William & Charles Robert Cumner

1913/14 Electoral Register
22 Clarke’s Orchard Two rooms, first floor unfurnished
James William Cumner
M Blunt same address

1918 Electoral Register
22 Clark’s Orchard
Amelia Beatrice Cumner

James William Cumner Private Service No: 202744
Date of Death: 17/04/1918 age 38
Regiment/Service:Lincolnshire Regiment 4th Bn.
Grave Reference XI. A. 6.Cemetery WIMEREUX COMMUNAL CEMETERY
Husband of Amelia Beatrice Cumner, of 22, Clark's Orchard, Rotherhithe, London.

[arry]

Hi Ladyhawk,
Have just found BEATRICE BIGGS marriage ,should be right one as it is st olave .

Freebmd 1931 marriages  BEATRICE BIGGS marrying ? CALLAGHAN st olave 1d 437.

thats all i can get with my facility ,

There are 3 beatrice,s 2 1905 and 1 1906 poplar london but i cannot access rest of info ,
many thanks Arry